KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Give Rafa a break, he just needs quality players..

I can't think of any other manager - on par with Rafa or better, to come in and do a better job then he has in the last few years.

as long as no transfer funds or warchest if you want to call it that is available this summer to Rafa or even a new manager, then we'll have the same problems, or bigger ones as Torres eyes an exit.

Emp lad if yah don't mind me asking you, was your attitude towards Rafa full of venom during the 2008 / 2009 season??
when did it all change?

when raffa broke up with him.

I thought Luis was the only heartbreaker around!!!

I think a lot of people underestimate the mess Houiller left us in. Rafa has said to certain people that if he knew just how much work was needed at the club from top to bottom he probably would never had come here.

luis' the king. he's breaking hearts and taking names.

Emp has wanted rafa out since i signed up here and probably a lot longer.

Houllier left us in a mess and there's no way in this world anyone can deny that. He left us with very very average players on massive wages who Rafa had to get rid of. Emp dont let your dislike for Rafa cloud your judgement on this and no I'm not doing it to stick up for Rafa its a plain and simple fact.

he's had six years and enough money murph, and were bleedin terrible at the moment.

Fellows its not just about last nights game, or games where we play beautifully and win and out come all the rafa stans, its about having quality sides to produce free flowing football, and weve seen this very few this season because of injury.

Rafa knows the team he has, hell he chose a good part of the squad, and when we dont play well, we complain because Rafa chose not to be as offensive or because he shouldve brought Aquilani 15 minutes earlier in the match. The boy isnt ready and we can tell, when he does play half a game he picks up a niggle of an injury anyway. Lets just establish that some players when joining an EPL side dont accomodate automatically and prob need a year or so to be ready.

I dont think we wouldve of signed our classy players if it wasnt for Rafa, you think MON or Alex McLeish would come along and sign top argentine or spanish players, i doubt it..but thats not what i want to discuss here..

This whole season rafa has had to do with makeshift tactics cuz of key players being injured. Im sure we can agree that when we have our starters in a home game we play beautiful football, we won 3-0 and 4-1 in our last two home games, and won the other 6 home games before that, its just our away form that has been sloppy, but even birmingham and wigan have stolen points at home against the top 4. We just need Rafa and everyone else to stick around one more season and get us a striker or 2 so we can have options on the attack, our midfield is packed as ive said before, we just need some assitance to Torres on the attack. I'd take a Europa League trophey before 4th place anytime, its still a trophey...but id perfer both :p

Hyppia is roughly 47 years old
Finnan just because he's irish emp doesnt make him a great player! squad player is about it for stevie.
Riise was to incosistant.
Hammann's legs where going.

Carragher and Gerrard would have come through the ranks who ever was in charge plus I think Carragher has imporved 100% since Rafa took over.