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I am not lost in any maths and can you show when and where Henry has speculated with any of his sports franchise? I have not seen this anywhere.

Henry has not sold redsox or LFC but that does not mean he is not speculating on either and he shows little interest in the sporting side of the club in relation to say city or Chelsea's owners. He is like the glaziers to me, also speculators.

But this is side tracking

You look too much to the short term to me vish I am an accountant so by nature I would be cautious and look for problems. But there are times when you need to show vision and look to the long term. This is one of them the last time we acquired a stadium was well over a hundred years ago.

My vision is Liverpool are equal to anyone. You seem to want to compromise on the vision and ambition

Look I have been explaining for a long time that unless you sort out the short term there is no long term but you don't seem to understand probably because you are an accountant who has been looking at short terms detail for a long time and now trying to talk vision. Your vision can be great but your short term is so [oops] that we might never get to the long term. You will not understand and really I don't care anymore. Keep moaning, that's all I can say.

That’s interesting lumba. because when I was last there I went to see both also, and Stanley is right too, since I also made a pilgrimage to Old Toilet, last time I was in Manchester.
Must say I feel very depressed by this small minded, cowardly reconstruction job, we have a great opportunity here, but we’re going for the cheap option that’ll stymie our club for at least a generation. It’s a surrender, a shame and a tragedy, not only LFC, but for the city of Liverpool and it’s surrounding areas.

It's also depressing to think that this is acceptable to a lot of reds.

Completely agree Hercules the voice of reason against the FSG collaborators who embrace the limiting of LFC for all time.

Indeed it is, but I understand it, it’s fear, the same fear that drives FSG. They call it caution, and prudent decision making, and they present it as being in the best interests of the club, but in reality it’s pure and simple ambition sapping fear, and rather than being in the best interests of the club it diminishes the club’s potential and could have drastic longterm developmental consequences. Nothing inhibits positive action so much as crippling fear.

Why not collaborate with owners who have at last been able to find a solution to increase our seat capacity, something I have been hearing for the last 2 decades but which was always talk, talk but no action? No other owner I can remember did better.

Why not collaborate with owners who bailed us out of administration only 4 years ago that could have put us in a situation like Rangers even if not that bad?

Why not collaborate with owners who have been able to so significantly increase our sponsorship revenues to match the best of the EPL, something anybody following the EPL would know that we have been criminally lagging behing Manure despite being the biggest club 25 years back?

Why not collaborate with owners who have found ways to increase even the match day revenue with the same number of seats through tiered pricing of tickets?

Last but not least, why not collaborate with owners who have brought us within a couple of points of winning the league, something that was not even expected by the most optimistic of us something not done by any of our owners in the last couple of decades.

At least there is some hope now unless of course one want to maon.

People prefer conspiracy theories.

Vish we were not in administration as you well know. Yes they have significantly increased ticket prices hurting many dedicated fans I bet you loved that. Sponsorship yes you could argue they have done well but no better than other big clubs and a factor of the huge money flowing in premiership football. As for John Henry nearly winning us the league that's laughable it was despite John Henry who like the stadium prefers bargain basement investment in the club the league position was entirely to do with Brendan Rodgers whom they appointed I agree but after the total calamity of daglish so I would hold off in the praise of their managerial appointing in any case this thread is about the stadium

They are moving forward with their plan for the stadium which they always had which was to refurbish anfield at the cheapest option and then to sell leaving the club and high dry and in a position never again to match our local rivals (unless you mean Everton).

This is what I can't understand why any person calling themselves a Liverpool supporter would want that for the club.