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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
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Stadium naming rights sponsors give a toss what the stadiums look like Maxi I would think, dont you ?


why would they? Its an added bonus but certainly not the main focus. The overriding focus for them is to be associated with a successful brand.

I'd ease off references to places stan, not in any post at me but its a fine line to offence being taken


We all know where the regular posters live countrywise although taking offence is often used as a weapon on here. Re the sponsors how can a sponsor who specifically sponsors a stadium such as arsenal or city be indifferent to the stadiums appearance that is simply not credible. I also think general sponsors shirt etc take account of it the performance of the team star players the stadium are all part of the package they want to be associated with success and glamour. Any one of those is not enough vish seems to think just being in the champions league will make us a top club it will but not without the other components there are plenty clubs in the champions league every year but they never become great clubs. I want Liverpool to be one of the greats in future along with real man utd barca etc is that a bad thing to want ?


Being in the champions league would be more appealing to a sponsor than us having a 90000 stadium. Can you really not see that? They want to be associated with successful teams where exposure is greatest. The champions league will guarantee that for them.

I think that because you do go to the matches and are a season ticket holder that you are blind to the benefits and limitations of the stadium to a sponsors eyes

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Like I keep saying we have to be in the champions league and have a stadium capable if expansion not one or the other

People keep assuming if we build a proper stadium we won't be in the champions league it if we refurbish anfield we definitely will be.

Crazy stuff


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Like I keep saying we have to be in the champions league and have a stadium capable if expansion not one or the other

People keep assuming if we build a proper stadium we won't be in the champions league it if we refurbish anfield we definitely will be.

Crazy stuff


Do you not see that building a stadium from scratch and the additional payments involved with that will diminish our prospects of future top 4 runs. The premier league is far more competitive now than when Arsenal built the Emirates. If we missed out on the champions league and lost the tv money there added to the interest and capital repayments, we very easily could find ourselves struggling to break back into the top 4

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It's a nice thought saying we're the top club in British football, but, unfortunately, it's simply not true anymore.





No its not but why cant we be again? Thats why I wanted owners with the muscle to catch up on the wasted 25 years. We never got it we got "the best of the rest"


I can understand your views on it, Stan. Obviously the best option, moving forward, would be for a brand spanking new Stadium which would rival/better Old Trafford, but it just isn't realistic - not with the owners we have.

Comparisons have been made with Arsenal - I think that it would be a much harder task for us to do similar, the landscape has changed. Paying off the debt for a new Stadium would be very dependant on staying in the CL, we now have 7 quality teams that will be pushing for Top 4, this wasn't the case for Arsenal and Wenger did brilliantly to not drop out of it, with only 5 teams realistically challenging for 4 spots. There is less risk involved with the option FSG have chosen.

We can become the best again, but that will take time and success on the pitch. There was a time when all fans cared about was what happened on the pitch, sadly that is no longer the case.


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Excatly you guys have said it...

Not with the owners we have

We can't build a proper stadium and be in the champions league

Resouces e.g there arnt any

Did we sign up to this when FSG took over ?

I dont remember it

We are a second tier club if you are right and I am wrong that is for sure. The orginal title weas what have FSG brought to the table?

Other than some housekeeping which any sensible owner would do the answer is nothing.

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in your opinion, not mine

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There's only about four clubs in world football who have owners that pump endless money into their clubs stan, the rest have to live on what the earn.

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
in your opinion, not mine


Perhaps I have higher aspirations for the club than you. Maybe I am old fasioned maybe my ideas are unrealistic such as wanting to be a bigger and better club than our north west rivals or have we given up on that now? And yes Marko I know we finished above united last season. You know what a lot pilloried cool flames for saying liverpool are a mid table club yet here are so called fans willing it on.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: Maxi88
in your opinion, not mine


Perhaps I have higher aspirations for the club than you. Maybe I am old fasioned maybe my ideas are unrealistic such as wanting to be a bigger and better club than our north west rivals or have we given up on that now? And yes Marko I know we finished above united last season. You know what a lot pilloried cool flames for saying liverpool are a mid table club yet here are so called fans willing it on.


Indeed you are old fashioned and very far from reality IMO.

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Paying the odd visit to an alternate reality is very enlightening Vish,don't knock it.


That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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