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and if we don't need to go beyond 58k? As you yourself have stated many, many, many times, you don't believe that the demand is as great as the season tickets would lead us to believe.

You have also stated many, many, many times that you believe that there will be a reduction in ticket prices in the future.

How can you then justify spending 350mil more at the probable expense of our success on the field which could lead to a fall in commercial revenue as well as any additional tv revenue associated with the champions league?

If your response is based on the stadium is a hub issue, thats fine, thats your opinion and you're welcome to it but I would not share that same opinion at all

Its possible but there is no guarantee that we will need it in the future especially if match day revenue is going to fall, it would be madness to spend so much on a new stadium

There is definite value of having the ability to expand but in my opinion, not at the cost of 350mil. I don't think his argument is nonsense but I think we have very different viewpoints

I would be fairly confident that FSG would have tried to get funding off the council (and would be disappointed if they hadn't to be honest) so I don't see any merit really in the money that the council has as an actual source of finance for LFC.

I doubt that FSG will still be in charge of LFC in 15 years although if American sports is anything to go by at present that owners of franchises are very relunctant to sell as tv money keeps rising. I don't see a massive collapse in it as sports will always remain a live tv event and will still command ad revenue and subscriptions which should keep the money flowing. If they still are in charge in 15 years, I think Liverpool will be better off for it but that is just my opinion. I think they are good businessmen, both for themselves and for Liverpool

The best way to get out of the stuffed situation is to build a 75k stadium now, isn't it?
Let me tell you one thing though, it's not revenue which is the most important in business (this is what football clubs are) its available cash. As they say, revenue is vanity, profits sanity and cash reality.

Like I say 65k and option to 90k new build Stanley park. It may be the time to consider groundshare with Everton the city would be more likely to fund that especially if it promoted the city and the cruise terminals and tourism etc

Think long term not short term

Long term is an option only if your short term is sorted out which we hardly have or only just since the arrival of FSG, before that we had owners who had put all the debt on the club and we could not service our debt and before them we had an owner who wanted to cash out (who for a few more bucks didn't sell to Arabs).

We have been trying to increase our number of seats for the better part of the last 25 years and it's only not that it looks like it will be a reality rather sooner than later. Of course for you it's not enough, we all want more but I am realistic enough to have a step by step building approach (first short term then medium term and then long term). You are unhappy, it's your problem really, the only option you have is to moan, so be my guess and carry on. This is what you have been doing for the better part of your 12000 post whether on ticket prices, KD, transfers, not winning the league last season, stadium to name a few. You must be a very painful person to live with if you have the same attitude about everything.

For one who moans at me moaning vish you seem to do a fair bit yourself constantly squabbling and your "you don't know what your taking about phrase" is not just reserved for me it seems in universal use.

As for the short medium long term plan I quite agree the problem is FSG only have a short term plan.

To me this seems to be develop the stadium at the lowest cost they are able to get away with and clear off.

I want a plan that will see Liverpool through the long term (stadiums are for 100 years plus) that does not seem moaning to me nor is it negative quite the opposite in fact

You are moaning about the current plan, well, I would say, nothing new, keep moaning.

Well given the current plan is inadequate and will sell Liverpool short for all time I am proud to be moaning about it