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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
They might well have done but as a Liverpool supporter who I like to think can think for myself I have an opinion

And although they may be right for themselves they are dramatically wrong for Liverpool, football club the fans and the city of Liverpool

The latter are my concern not American speculators whom before gillet and hicks messed up would probably struggle to find Liverpool on a map never mind have heard of the club or the game.


Do you understand what you are asking? You want LFC to build a stadium that could be expanded in 10 years time IF there is a need to do so with the risk of us going either bankrupt or at least difficult to compete because of higher expense due additional debt. Nobody having some sense would be ready to take that kind of risk.

You are so sure that we will need to further expand in 10 years time, why is that? The share of match day revenue over total revenue is decreasing consistantly and I am sure that demographics in LFC is not going to rise much neither. So spending on a new stadium with the available information would be a total waste of money and you want FSG to take such a crap decision.

Unless they/we had excess cash, I would be very worried if they built a new stadium especially through borrowings. Your problem is that we should have a bigger stadium than Manure even if it makes us much less competitive. We are not in a stadium contest in my books but competing to have the better team which is only possible through sound management of available resources.

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Not just for the expansion options Vish important as they are but I think new build on stanley park would be the better option its not entirely about finances if it has to be right or better to build nothing at all. If you going to do it get it right and get it right for the long term.

You are an overseas visitor would you want to make the long trip to future anfield look at it and say

1 - Wow !

or

2 - That design gave us the optimum short to medium term return on ROCE ?

In fact dont answer that !

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Youd go to wherever the stadium is because you're there to see a football match and not an architecture tour

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
Youd go to wherever the stadium is because you're there to see a football match and not an architecture tour


Not true you dont go to wembley just to see the game


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Why not? I'd have no interest in going to Wembley for anything other than a match

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Not just for the expansion options Vish important as they are but I think new build on stanley park would be the better option its not entirely about finances if it has to be right or better to build nothing at all. If you going to do it get it right and get it right for the long term.

You are an overseas visitor would you want to make the long trip to future anfield look at it and say

1 - Wow !

or

2 - That design gave us the optimum short to medium term return on ROCE ?

In fact dont answer that !


Personally I would come to watch us win a game much more than anything else and for us to win a game we need to have enough money to buy players. The looks of the stadium is really secondary, but that's me. I would be very very unhappy to say wow what a stadium and see us lose the game. ROCE won't even cross my mind by the way.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
You are an overseas visitor would you want to make the long trip to future anfield look at it and say

1 - Wow !

or

2 - That design gave us the optimum short to medium term return on ROCE ?

In fact dont answer that !


I'm done with the debate Stan, but many, many moons ago I was that overseas visitor who traveled a very long way to go to Anfield. I'd seen 100k seater stadiums, grand stadiums, new stadiums and stadiums knee deep in history - I still had that WOW factor my first time through the turnstiles.

The stadium was only half the experience for me, but just getting to watch the Reds, At Anfield, in front of the Kop... that was all that mattered to me.

A true Red would watch Liverpool play down Bootle strand if they were playing there. And that says alot wink

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Vish I am sorry I am not buying that you would come all the way from Mauritius to watch a 90 minute game of football. I am sorry I don't believe you

People come to see the team yes but the colour the crowds and yes the stadium huge impressive stands looming up I remember when I first went to the millennium stadium my jaw dropped literally.

Football is far more than watching a match

I am speechless


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For me personally when I'm in a stadium, it's the memories created in that stadium that matter most to me and what I'd think about, not the stadium itself

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When I travelled up to London for the Fulham away game last season, I didn't really give a Fvck about the stadium.

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