KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum What have FSG brought to the table ?

No one is saying it's easy nothing worth doing ever is. As for the £20m a year that depends on the time horizon they are building it on. Given a stadium normally amortises over 100 years a preference or debenture over 40 years is almost normal business practice, This month we had the first board meeting of the combined city region with almost 2 billion to come into the city. The biggest project in Europe the Atlantic gateway is taking place which is freight but includes a new cruise liner terminal which will be the second biggest in the UK . A world class stadium would showcase not only the club but the city. You are not telling me an arrangement could not be made either partial grants or collateral for the club in alliance with the city region ?

It's fine making throw away comments but show some vision you are supposed to be Liverpool fans not cost accountants. Thank you for those supporting me it's great to know we have fans still with the LFC ambition

We are the greatest club in the world

Let's show it !

Your ambition has a good chance of bringing LFC to its knees by trying to eat more than the club or its investors can digest. I said it before, look at where Leeds is now in fact they won the EPL well after us. We are not the greatest club in the world, stop dreaming.

VIsh Stan you both have valid points but if repayments are 20 mil a year now what will they be in 10 to 20 years ? And how much will a new stadium cost then 800, 900 1 billion ? One thing is for sure costs of building them will go up interest rates now are quite low to what they have been and the likelihood of them being the same or cheaper in 20 years is low in my opinion.
land will go up in value as the commodity shrinks some might say new technology might make building cheaper in my experience it is usually more expensive wages will be higher of the builders etc it's inevitable !
How many times have you heard people say I wish I had bought my house 20 years ago I can't afford it now! I have been hearing that for 40 odd years,
Buy now it will seem like a bargain in the future that's not predicting that's looking at history in my life and before it always turns out that way so if you are long sited and want to be part of that future, that is the thing to do as history has proven it so many times it's not funny especially for those who have sat on the fence and not invested in property [/quote]

Would you prefer to have 20m for players for the next 10 years or a new stadium but having to sell players as Arsenal has been doing while they paid for Emirates?

When I asked what you prefered, I meant what was/is better for LFC.

Do we do a new stadium which will not bring additional revenues in the next 10 years but increase the expenditure by at least 20m (even if it is a long term loan) which will surely hinder our capacity to be competitive, ie, decrease our probability to qualify for CL and reduce EPL tv rights OR we spend 300m less with a much better chance of being competitive and get better revenues through the CL and EPL over the next 10 years. For the second option, we can always do a bigger brand new stadium when the need for it comes up.

I prefer the second option, though I would have been happier if a Sugar Daddy gifted us 400m, but, no Sugar Daddy seemed interested in LFC.

If thats the situation we are in Vish then why spend £150m on an option that will take in a direction where we are forever behind our rivals. The £150m is a total weaste of money. Why not just put modern facilities in the main stand say £2m and let FSG develop the team and the club and leave the stadium alone. Let FSG cash in and make their money then at some point in the future with new owners with the financial muscle we develop a new ground. I would rather that was done rather than take the club entirely in the wrong direction because of the circumstances of the speculative focussed owner we have at the moment. Spending money badly means spending it twice

I am amazed by the original ideas coming from SP. Do you not think that perhaps all available options were analyzed, and a cost-benefit analysis performed and then a decision made? Surely, you are aware as with any project that all possible alternatives must be analyzed.

Of course but cost benefit for whom ?

For the club as it is the club who would be paying the costs!

I must disagree for all the reasons stated its the wrong move for the club and rather than do that I would prefer to do nothing as it will leave us in a bigger mess in the future. If you want to debate the point Marko happy to do so but please articulate rational points like Vish not silly comments.

Thank you

stanley, its not my fault if you cant comprehend the simplest of posts. A four year old would get it. Yet you tried again to avoid answering the question.

DO YOU BELIEVE THE CLUB CONDUCTED A COST/BENEFIT ANALYSIS?

simple yes or no will do.