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Re: What have FSG brought to the table ?
Maxi88 #417567 15/06/14 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
Cutting the ticket prices in half while trying to finance a new build doesn't make sense either? With a 90000 stadium with tickets at half the price, you'd earn the same revenue as now give or take the difference in corporate seating with far higher build costs, interest payments, operational expenses. It doesn't make sense


We build the stadium for the market as it is today at 65 if things change then we have an option (just an option) within the design to expand just as it is at Manchester city and United today. That to me makes sense

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Re: What have FSG brought to the table ?
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
As I said before I think football will change it has to the over priced tickets £56 heading to £100 will never work it's a declining pool of customers. Clubs who are not ready for that change will be forever high and dry.

So I would build 65k with an option in the design to go higher say to 90k


But this cannot be financed, even long term, unless you increase the tickets (which is not an option as you said it yourself). So, your analysis is all flawed and your strategy has no logical sense.
Re: What have FSG brought to the table ?
EnergisedReds #417572 15/06/14 12:44 PM
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If football changes vish and clubs need to lower the prices to attract back fans (hardly impossible) the clubs with the largest stadia (volume) will be in the strongest postion both for gate receipts and marketing sponsorship due to the spectacle

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Re: What have FSG brought to the table ?
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Which is why I favour 65k new build with the option of 90k financed by long term financing

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Re: What have FSG brought to the table ?
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But if we can't finance that build, how does that make sense?
Re: What have FSG brought to the table ?
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
If football changes vish and clubs need to lower the prices to attract back fans (hardly impossible) the clubs with the largest stadia (volume) will be in the strongest postion both for gate receipts and marketing sponsorship due to the spectacle



Forget it, ticket prices will not go down, if in an economic crisis over the last 5 years it increased, there is no reason for it to go down especially with an improving UK economic climate. Yes, if you have 90k seats, ie, much bigger supply, then you need to drop prices, otherwise no need, FSG are no fools. They are spot on with their 58k seats stadium developed at the least cost.
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EnergisedReds #417584 15/06/14 03:01 PM
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Vish you have no idea what ticket prices will do over the next few decades if you are able to accurately predict can I invite you to be my investment advisor if you have the ability to predict the future you will be much in demand.

My point is none of us can predict the future and therefore it is common sense (and business sense) to allow for flexibility to adapt to change. One thing I do agree with vish FSG have got it spot in. They have.,...for themselves

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Vish you have no idea what ticket prices will do over the next few decades if you are able to accurately predict can I invite you to be my investment advisor if you have the ability to predict the future you will be much in demand.

My point is none of us can predict the future and therefore it is common sense (and business sense) to allow for flexibility to adapt to change. One thing I do agree with vish FSG have got it spot in. They have.,...for themselves

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Indeed nobody can predict, this is why it is nonsense to spend 300-400m more in a new stadium. No need to take chances.
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If you never take a chance you never do anything shankly pressured his board to invest in the team and stadia. If FSG and you had been in charge back then we would never have got out of the old second division.

An old saying "you need to speculate to accumulate"

Ambition and drive to at least match our rivals not concede defeat for all time

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Re: What have FSG brought to the table ?
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
If you never take a chance you never do anything shankly pressured his board to invest in the team and stadia. If FSG and you had been in charge back then we would never have got out of the old second division.

An old saying "you need to speculate to accumulate"

Ambition and drive to at least match our rivals not concede defeat for all time


Only mad people would take a chance of 400m. You should understand that as you are reluctant to pay ticket prices more. Why don't you take a chance with all your savings? It's always very easy to ask others to take a chance of significance. With speculation you can also end in [oops], ask Leeds fans, I don't want LFC to end there.

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