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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I must dispute what cp1972 is saying kenny dalglish was a record signing and I remember shankly breaking the bank a few times Alun Evans for one.

And as for modern times too many to mention Suarez Torres etc

That’s true Stanley, and you’re absolutely right. However in the context of today’s inflated mega market prices I think cp has a point, e.g paying between 60 - 100m for the superstars is for either fools or the mega rich who don’t care too much whether a player works out and they lose money or not. For clubs like us who want to be sustainable and financially responsible, I think it makes sense to compete and buy high quality players, i.e. those in the 25 - 50m range and leave the overpriced players to the Chelsea’s RM’s, etc. There’s plenty of very high quality players out there in that price range, that would give us all the quality we need to succeed.
My concern is and has been that FSG are buying almost exclusively at or close the bottom of the market, and not at the one step down from the silly money level as suggested by cp.

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I accept that argument Hercules paying £80m for a player in today's market does not make sense however we must still recognise Liverpool FC have always played at the top table in terms of talent within the British leagues that's why we were successful or at least one of the main reasons


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I accept that argument Hercules paying £80m for a player in today's market does not make sense however we must still recognise Liverpool FC have always played at the top table in terms of talent within the British leagues that's why we were successful or at least one of the main reasons

Yeah fully agreed and no argument there Stanley. Brendan Rodgers has been talking about buying quality instead of quantity for two seasons now, and I’m pretty sure he’s talking about those in the same price/quality bracket we’re talking about. The question is will FSG stump up this season, or will we see more aspiring hopefuls bought at or close to bottom market prices.

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Time for fsg to back Rodgers with top players and top money. He did his job in getting an underachieving team back in the champions league in 2 years. Something our current England manager and King kenny dalglish couldn't.

Rodgers has to give the current players something bigger to believe in with top players coming in. Can't pull the wool over our eyes no more.

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Originally Posted By: JP1892
Time for fsg to back Rodgers with top players and top money. He did his job in getting an underachieving team back in the champions league in 2 years. Something our current England manager and King kenny dalglish couldn't.

Rodgers has to give the current players something bigger to believe in with top players coming in. Can't pull the wool over our eyes no more.


The current England manager and King Kenny didn't get 2 years though. However, BR did do great last season.

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Originally Posted By: JP1892
Time for fsg to back Rodgers with top players and top money. He did his job in getting an underachieving team back in the champions league in 2 years. Something our current England manager and King kenny dalglish couldn't.

Rodgers has to give the current players something bigger to believe in with top players coming in. Can't pull the wool over our eyes no more.

Agreed, but in the interest of fairness I’d point out that Rodgers had the benefit of being able to build on some of the players brought in by both of his predecessors. However no disputing the great work by Rodgers in improving performances from all of them, and moving on those that didn’t step up. As you say FSG has to keep faith now and back Rodgers for proven quality in this window.

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Originally Posted By: JP1892
Time for fsg to back Rodgers with top players and top money. He did his job in getting an underachieving team back in the champions league in 2 years. Something our current England manager and King kenny dalglish couldn't.

Rodgers has to give the current players something bigger to believe in with top players coming in. Can't pull the wool over our eyes no more.

Agreed, but in the interest of fairness I’d point out that Rodgers had the benefit of being able to build on some of the players brought in by both of his predecessors. However no disputing the great work by Rodgers in improving performances from all of them, and moving on those that didn’t step up. As you say FSG has to keep faith now and back Rodgers for proven quality in this window.


He has yes but also bombed out the ones and been ruthless enough to know when they won't cut it. Downing and Carroll. Bye bye.

Wil he do the same with asaps!? Was it his buy?

Back the man. End of. Even if it's just 1 big name. Don't waste it on lallana though.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I accept that argument Hercules paying £80m for a player in today's market does not make sense however we must still recognise Liverpool FC have always played at the top table in terms of talent within the British leagues that's why we were successful or at least one of the main reasons


I think my point is all of your comments. We just cannot afford a shevchenko, crespo situation. These players are clearly passed their best once signed for silly money, Suarez and Torres were early 20s and just starting to impress.
Only Kenya comes to mind as a genuine fully fledged top player, maybe Beardsley. That's no many for 37 years.
I like the idea of a player spending 5years or more with us rather than the Real model of two seasons. Just my thoughts on how to progress.
We need to replace 5 players from last years squad who hardly contributed Moses, cissoko, illori, Aspas , Alberto. 20 mil on each will not happen. I thin 7 players of which 2 will be top buys.

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Why do we need to replace Iloi? He wasn't even here last season and this season he will be with us. So if anything he takes away from our need to buy a player.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I have to agree with vish Liverpool never bought superstars is bonkers John Barnes kenny dalglish luis Suarez Etc etc etc
When these players came to Liverpool, they were very good but far from super stars. Dalglish came in 77 having spent the earlier part of his career at Celtic. At that time, the world's top players were Pele, Beckenbauer and Cruyff, the equivalents of today's Messi and Ronaldo. Barnes and Beardsley came in 87 from Watford and Newcastle respectively and they were hardly super stars. The same can be said about Suarez who was never mentioned in the same bracket with Messi and Ronaldo when he joined from Ajax. All these players achieved their super star status at the club.

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