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Spot on. It needed 2-3 top drawer players added to the side and we would have seen a different era. Souness also had a Chelsea like budget at the time or there certainly wasn't anyone he couldn't have signed.

Raffa for all his ills won the highest honour in the game and is still a better manager than Souness was at that time.

I think Souness tried to change things too fast, getting rid of players when they still had a couple of good years left in them. If he had done it a bit at a time it might have been easier, maybe if he had stayed at Liverpool and gone onto manage the club like Kenny did it might have been different but we will never know. Rafa just keeps doing mad things to prove everybody wrong and it isn't working, he said in his interview yesterday he was right to bring Torres off cause Ngog had a good game when he came on. So obviously he is determined to prove to people that he runs the club and makes the decisions and that all his decisions are correct

souness did a poor job no doubt about that. but there were other factors,an aging squad for a start. kenny [oops] off because he couldnt handle the pressure and could see the squad needed an injection of quality.barnes had got fat,rush getting old as were the likes of nicol,whelan etc

souness bought some highly rated players who didnt perform. mark wright,dean saunders were massive signings at the time. paul stewart was in the england squad as was mark walters. same with julian dicks. was he as bas as any of our current left backs? micheal thomas was a good player too. not to mention bringing through macmanaman and fowler who were really young at the time. can you imagine rafa taking a chance on a 16/17 year old?yes he bought some unknowns who didnt cut it either. most of them i cant even be arsed to try and spell their names!

i always defend souness because he's held up as some kind of devil. i think he was unlucky as he took over at a time when everything around lfc was collapsing. besides the squad getting on a bit, man utd were emerging as a force in the game. arsenal were stronger than us too. even leeds were title winners. i think souness had money to spend and spent most of it pretty well, he just didnt get the players to perform for him. maybe it was his attitude and man management that was his downfall. souness is an old fashioned type of plyaer/ manager. he doesnt take [oops] from players,doesnt mollycoddle his pampered stars like modern day managers do.

would souness bring his best player off after an hour to give him a rest? would he rotate his squad and play weakened teams?would he bring his captain off in a merseyside derby because he was "showing too much passion"?

take away rafa's luck champions league win and his record is almost the same as that of sounesses......1 fa cup!

istanbul was great but it also set us back 10 years. we've gone from champions of europe to a top 6 side if we're lucky. now that's bad management!

there is no way it is possible to defend souness when the guy sold his story to the s*n! he brought crap to the club - i don't care how highly rated players like walters, dicks, stewart etc were. His job was to see that they would not fit into his team and so not buy them, but he failed miserably.

yes he bought rob jones but can anyone think of a single other successful player he brought to the club?

souness and rafa are on a par to me - rafa does things that are clearly stupid purely because he thinks he is some kind of tactical genius and refuses to accept he is not, no matter how many times it is thrown in his face (like yesterday when ngog fluffed chances torres on crutches would have put away) ..... souness on the other hand was just greedy, there are very good reasons why the club spent the huge amounts it did under him, there are very good reasons such huge numbers of players were sold and signed, i just wonder how much he siphoned off during his time

it is an honest assessment of the guy - he sold his story to the s*n for money, what makes you think he would baulk at a few extra quid on a transfer? especially as it is extremely common in football, at one time almost every transfer involved greased palms ...... not sure it is still the same

trepie you're an idiot. you have actually accused souness of fiddling on the internet,what a mong!

and you're accusations are based on what? yes he sold his story to the s*n. you think souness needed the money? oh dear!

i suggest you're one of these mouthy idiots who rants on about the s*n but wants forgiveness for heysel. you want justice for the 96 but sing munich

number 1 idiot!

Lyrical genius this one.

He's just released a book named " how to win and influcence people with the power of speech"

It would be nice for some else to have a turn.

why would i want to win over an idiot like trepie?

to me this season feels like it's worse than anything we had to suffer under souness.

at least souness allowed his players to play and didnt stifle them. the main reasons teams under souness failed were that the players didnt perform to their potential and injuries(later found to ne caused by training methods)

rafa has no bottle,disrespects the fans by fielding weakened teams for so called lesser games and talks complete and utter garbage

Who said anything about winning people over?

If you've got a point try making it without offending peope who've not caused you any offence.

By the way if you don't believe that managers have taken brown envelopes stuffed with cash to buy and sell players then you've got a lot to learn. ( I'd like to point out that these accusations may or may not have allegedly happened. )