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liverpool great policy of winning from the paisley's and fagan's and shanks was same as last year same as last week , but you think thats simplistic. What is simplistic is the fact that you dont think any of those managers ever did anything different. That does them a disservice. If it was simply a case of doing the same thing every week we would as flames said "all be football managers".
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Shaggy is totally right those great managers were very innovative no way did they just do the same thing every week. Bob paisley may have said same team as last year but that was just PR press stuff.
The reason those managers were so good was because they were ahead of the game better than the opposition
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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Do people really expect us to win four nil, week in week out? West Brom held a deep back line and denied SASAS any room in behind. Unlike the bitters, the didn't lose the plot and all run forward like headless chickens when they went a goal down. They played with discipline and kept to their game plan. Which was to invite us onto them, hoping to hit us on the break. Now if we were really champion material and had central defenders to match, we would've obliged and pinned them into their own half. Not worrying to much about their breakaways as we would have some quality and pace at the back. But we're not and we haven't, yesterday our back four was made up of one first teamer, one old man and two young kids. We also had our first choice DMF and also his replacement out. So not only did we have a very make shift back four but we have also had to change our whole formation to fit the players we do have available. It was nearly the perfect away performance, the first half was, we quietened the crowd, give em nothing to get excited about and nicked a goal. Second half we were one silly pass away from three points. We still came away with a point and I still beleive an away draw is a good draw, no matter who your playing. That four points we've taken off them this season, you can't ask for more than that.
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liverpool great policy of winning from the paisley's and fagan's and shanks was same as last year same as last week , but you think thats simplistic. What is simplistic is the fact that you dont think any of those managers ever did anything different. That does them a disservice. If it was simply a case of doing the same thing every week we would as flames said "all be football managers". no shaggy i am not doing the greats a disservice , my point is why change a team in great form scoring goals just for change sake , ok liverpool were not great but still should have won , ok toure mistake was a disgrace , but suarez missed a sitter at 1-0 to kill the game off , now suarez missing an open goal and toure ballsing it up cannot be rodgers fault , and for me brendan asking for same again from liverpool would have been the right tactics .
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Bit harsh on Luis there Faz, the keeper was still there to be beat but stuck a boot out and got lucky.
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Do people really expect us to win four nil, week in week out? West Brom held a deep back line and denied SASAS any room in behind. Unlike the bitters, the didn't lose the plot and all run forward like headless chickens when they went a goal down. They played with discipline and kept to their game plan. Which was to invite us onto them, hoping to hit us on the break. Now if we were really champion material and had central defenders to match, we would've obliged and pinned them into their own half. Not worrying to much about their breakaways as we would have some quality and pace at the back. But we're not and we haven't, yesterday our back four was made up of one first teamer, one old man and two young kids. We also had our first choice DMF and also his replacement out. So not only did we have a very make shift back four but we have also had to change our whole formation to fit the players we do have available. It was nearly the perfect away performance, the first half was, we quietened the crowd, give em nothing to get excited about and nicked a goal. Second half we were one silly pass away from three points. We still came away with a point and I still beleive an away draw is a good draw, no matter who your playing. That four points we've taken off them this season, you can't ask for more than that. six?
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Bit harsh on Luis there Faz, the keeper was still there to be beat but stuck a boot out and got lucky. not having a go at suarez just pointing out that rodgers isnt to blame for asking for the same again after destroying everton , and lets look at WBA the arse draw everton draw and the best MUFC at old trafford so its a tough game at WBA and it was .
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Shaggy is totally right those great managers were very innovative no way did they just do the same thing every week. Bob paisley may have said same team as last year but that was just PR press stuff.
The reason those managers were so good was because they were ahead of the game better than the opposition Best example is the Bayern semi in 81. Played loads of balls down the channels from the back, howard gayle ran them ragged. Master class in tactics from sir bob. Midfield just stayed solid.
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Bit harsh on Luis there Faz, the keeper was still there to be beat but stuck a boot out and got lucky. not having a go at suarez just pointing out that rodgers isnt to blame for asking for the same again after destroying everton , and lets look at WBA the arse draw everton draw and the best MUFC at old trafford so its a tough game at WBA and it was . WBA would be in relegation zone without the draw and Norwich won there if we look at the other side of the story. These are the games we should win because we are unable to beat the big teams. Winning against Arsenal would 'correct' this result, but unfortunately I am not confident with the inconsistency we have, don't know what to expect.
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liverpool great policy of winning from the paisley's and fagan's and shanks was same as last year same as last week , but you think thats simplistic. What is simplistic is the fact that you dont think any of those managers ever did anything different. That does them a disservice. If it was simply a case of doing the same thing every week we would as flames said "all be football managers". no shaggy i am not doing the greats a disservice , my point is why change a team in great form scoring goals just for change sake , ok liverpool were not great but still should have won , ok toure mistake was a disgrace , but suarez missed a sitter at 1-0 to kill the game off , now suarez missing an open goal and toure ballsing it up cannot be rodgers fault , and for me brendan asking for same again from liverpool would have been the right tactics . It isnt a matter of changing the team, it is a matter of changing the tactics to suit the opposition and that is what BR failed to do. We murdered Everton on the counter attack but when WBA just sat in we didnt have a plan B. We were settling for 1-0 as soon as we scored and as we saw that is a dangerous game to play.
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