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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
So you're saying that we did win trophies with H&G in charge?


Of course we did, ffsk.

For someone who has made over 3000 posts regarding this club I would have thought you would have know that !

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Could you enlighten me as to what we won between 2007 and 2010?

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We got to a champions league final with gillet and hicks in charge I bet we would take that now ?


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I would kill for that at this stage but considering they took over in February and after the transfer window, they don't get any credit in my book for that one.

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
I would kill for that at this stage but considering they took over in February and after the transfer window, they don't get any credit in my book for that one.


They signed Torres in the summer

Can you imagine us signing a top European striker today ?


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I think that we tried to sign Costa in the summer.

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The last two posters are correct the club is in the business of profits not winning trophies

The optimum profitability is probably being 5th or 6th and spending little keeping the wage bill down and milking the large fan base for as many years as they can.

It's been clear for some time that's their plan

To qualify for champions league would incur disprortionate expenditure relative to the revenue / risk algorithm


Agree with that Stan, however with the deals being done we may get to a point where the commercial income allows Rogers a lot more money for players -granted you have to accept that FSG are here to reinvest and win trophies.

The self sustaining club bit is without question the model but there is an obvious conflict with the worldwide fan base who want it now not in 2 or 3 years.


If there is any conflict with the worldwide fan base it's because they want success and trophies. Nothing to do with being self sustaining.

Trust me mate, being self sustaining will never win an argument in a pub when you are trying to defend your club against a team that has just won a trophy, title or champions league.

In this city, if we wanted to support a team that's self sustaining but win feck all then we'd jog across Stanley Park and start supporting the blue shyte!

At the end of it all, I just can not see us winning anything under FSG unless they invest. They could operate this way for the next 2 decades and we'll never have success (not unless the academy can produce an SG every season) and I think that when they eventually do go, all they will have cost us is a lot of wasted time.

At least when Hicks and co went, we had trophies, Istanbul and a 2nd place in the title race to look back on.


I'm not disagreeing with you TR but the facts are as stated. This is clearly the model (whether it changed after the waste under Kenny I don't know) like it or not it's what were stuck with for now. I just expect more Commercial announcements and more commercialism in general.

We will see whether Rogers can over achieve with what he has been given as a transfer and salary budget soon enough.


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Tried being the operative word.

Also not sure I believe them there's a world of difference between stories and actually closing deal we are not in that league anymore we have neither the ambition or the means to do it


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Tried being the operative word.

Also not sure I believe them there's a world of difference between stories and actually closing deal we are not in that league anymore we have neither the ambition or the means to do it


The summer will reveal a lot. They missed a huge opportunity in January to strengthen but in the summer, there will be an increase in income through either a Suarez sale or champions league money and how active we are then will indicate if they are happy to stay in the 5th or 6th places or whether they want to fully reinject funds into the club

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Dnipro executive director Andriy Rusol has told the Ukrainian press that he expects Liverpool to sign Yevhen Konoplyanka in the summer.

Liverpool tried to bring in the winger before Friday night's deadline but could not finalise a deal, with reports suggesting that the clubs could not agree on how a fee would be paid.

Brendan Rodgers has since insisted that money was not the problem and admitted Liverpool could revive their interest in Konoplyanka at the end of the season.

Dnipro official Rusol is also convinced that, with enough time, a transfer can finally be sorted.

"I am a thousand per cent sure that Liverpool will try again in the summer and then we'll let him go," he is quoted as telling Ukrainian media outlets.

"Money was not the problem, the problem was that Liverpool came too late.

"But in the summer everything will be fine. If Liverpool, in the summer, report to us, Yevhen will still go to this club."

Rusol also dismissed suggestions that Dnipro president Igor Kolomoisky had vetoed the deal, insisting that the club were ready to do business.

He added: "Igor Kolomoisky gave the go-ahead immediately. It is not our fault, Liverpool representatives could have arrived a day or two earlier.

"Up to the deadline we were waiting for the transfer of money from Liverpool. But this did not happen."

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