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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975


You said yourself in another post that they're miles away. They're absent owners so nothing gets done.


Which is true if there's a problem or more funds are needed, if not then there is no problem. Everything rests on BR's shoulders.

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Like I have said before, whoopee for the committee, BR still wanted the signings we made! Like NAFE93 said, they are there to make sure another Carroll doesn't happen, and they should back BR, So non of the signings made were BR's idea??? that's a bit thin!

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I think BR's done well to get us where we are with the squad he's got, but there's too much not known about this 'committee'.

- Does BR actually target players? I can't imagine he asks the committee to look at mediocre players.. They decide a value, tell Ayre what he can pay and JW has the final say? It doesn't make any sense and no longer it's not working.

It's pretty clear we'll never win the league this way and even IF we make top 4, there's at least Spurs and Manu who'll invest enough to overtake us the year after.

I'd like to be as optimistic as Ninja, bu the Glaziers are supposedly worse and they just spunked £40m on Mata...

If we don't make top 4 in the summer, Saurez is gone. How many players would the 'committee sign' with the 70m and how long would they take doing it?

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Originally Posted By: theanfieldpigeon
I dont understand your point of view Spice, You either back the manager or you dont, If you're only allowing to purchase players of a certain budget you're going to come up with more bad ones than good ones, You can point to all the money he spent on MANY failed targets and say he wasted that money, but the fact is he is only being allowed a small amount per target. I.e. scraping the bottom of the bargain bin. If he was given a decent amount of money to spend on his REAL targets without all this transfer committee nonsense THEN and only then is it fair to blame him and make him accountable if those said players fail. At the moment he has got us in 4th position on a threadbare squad, and a few astute signings. We need money to push on to the next level though. As it stands, I dont think we could hope for much better if FSG are making it so the maximum we'll spend under BR is 20 mill. And even then, that being very rare.


Who are BR's REAL targets, as when he first joined the club, he said he didn't want anyone dictating to him and then he signed Joe bloody Allen, Fabio Borini and tried to sign Ashley Williams FFS before going on to having the worst start in over a century and having worse form than Kenny and Hodgson before they were sacked, it's a miracle that BR is still here....and that's why FSG intervened and created the Committee.

As to bargain bin, if he was a good manager he should be able to find the right players.

Rafa has less net spend than Rodgers this season and the difference in sheer quality is ridiculous.

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Originally Posted By: RedJohn

I think BR's done well to get us where we are with the squad he's got, but there's too much not known about this 'committee'.

- Does BR actually target players? I can't imagine he asks the committee to look at mediocre players.

If we don't make top 4 in the summer, Saurez is gone. How many players would the 'committee sign' with the 70m and how long would they take doing it?


Oh FFS. There's plenty of information on the committee out there, it consists of Rodgers, Hunter, Fallows, His swansea rejects - Pascoe, Driscoll and Davies and then Ayre. It has nothing to do with FSG, they set the initial budget which Rodgers has to work with, he then gets funds from player sales as well, hence he's spent 100m in 3 transfer windows.

Why is it so hard for people to understand, Rodgers outlines his plans, tells his scouts what kind of players he wants, from what country, what position, everything down to the detail, they look for those kinds of player report back to his technical staff who write up a report, watch videos blah blah, they all have a meting, Rodgers tells Ayre how much he wants to spend, get them to sign up. Not hard to understand really.

Rodgers would have known about every transfer we've made, he would have had input in every transfer we've made, he would have personally told Ayre to sign those players.

We sign a dud, let's blame FSG who had no say in the transfer, we sign a good player, oh Rodgers is wonderful and the greatest manager since Paisley.

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That's because Rafa sold Cavani, just like Spurs sold Bale. If we sold Suarez we would have very little net spend too. Maybe BR didn't spend well in his first transfer window because he came in fairly late, while everyone was at the World Cup, and didn't have a lot of time to get things together. From what I've heard, we didn't even have a proper scouting department. I don't think he did too bad.

I wanted him to get Allen, I liked the guy at Swansea, unfortunately he's had injury issues, but still like his contribution. Boroni is starting to find his feet this season too, being Sunderlands best player over the last few games.

I do think he needs to get some players for now, but I can see the players developing and being decent in a few years.

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Based on the above info.....if true....... Do not let br, transfer committee buy any players unless they are quality, proven at the highest level, top clubs in Europe want them etc etc

I can see fsg point, br has wasted millions on dog poo players.....


Maybe fsg shud fack off the committee and bring in a top top DOF.....

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Originally Posted By: Pops
That's because Rafa sold Cavani


Rafa also signed our first choice Keeper and didn't pay a penny for him, meanwhile we went out and splashed 10m on a new one. Rafa also signed Albiol for 11m, whereas we spent over 15m on Sakho, Rafa signed Callejon for 8m, whilst we spent the same amount on Aspas, Rafa signed Mertens for 8m whilst we signed Alberto...you get the idea, it's about spending smart.

Over the last 2 seasons we've spent a small fortune on foreign players that can't even get a look in at this club, despite the fact that our squad is depleted. Meanwhile Shelvey and Spearing get flogged for cheap and just happen to be great players, Suso and Assaidi get sent out on loan which means we have no cover on the wings, God knows what happened to Coates, Wilson has been on phenomenal form in Scotland since being released, Robinson is tearing up the championship, meanwhile we're stuck with an injured Enrique and a [oops] Cissokho. None of it makes any sense at all.

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Originally Posted By: gnp-uk

Maybe fsg shud fack off the committee and bring in a top top DOF.....


What you mean their original plan, they wanted to bring a new one in when they hired Rodgers, I think it was Dein or someone, but Rodgers refused to work with one as he wanted everything his own way, no doubt back to the old 500 page dossier based on how much he loves Mourinho and how he turned Swansea in to Barcelona.

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Out of the players that Rodgers has bought in I've put them into different categories.

First team players, who actually get help the team:
Allen. Some like him some don't, but did very well this season when he played.
Sakho. Stared of slow but is a bit of a beast now.
Coutinho. Has been slowing down, but obviously has talent and is very good.
Sturridge. Great buy, happy to have him
Migs. Good shot stopper, has been good in general.
Toure. Been decent, especially for free, smart buy.

Ones for the future:
Illori. Is highly rated and was always going out on loan apparently.
Boroni. Started of slow, but has been showing improvement.
Alberto. Has quality, but needs to find his feet and settle.

Failures:
Aspas: been average at best, might come good, but hasn't yet.

Loans that you can gamble on:
Cissoko. Very average, tries his best but just doesn't have it.
Sahin. Was decent, not to sure what went wrong there.
Moses. Has moments of quality, but is quite lazy and doesn't seem to care.

To me, he hasn't done to bad, most of the players are getting games and helping out. Some haven't settled yet, but have time on their side. Only Cissoko, Moses and Aspas have been poor and two of them are loans without much risk.

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