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Suarez Barnes or dalglsh
For me Barnes but just my opinion
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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One for the old boys this I think. The only real strikers I can compare him to are Owen and Torres and he's better than them if memory serves. Agreed. I'm 28 and so don't consider myself to be too young (unfortunately) but only have Rush, Fowler, Owen and Torres to compare Suarez to. For me, Suarez is the best Liverpool striker I've ever seen but the likes of Barnes and Dalglish must be a good shout.
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Coolflamesged. Are we playing different teams to what City are playing? If not, then how are the expectations really that different? Maybe in an altered reality, there are actually 2 of each team in the prem, teams that city play that are like the knights guard if you like, and of of the finest pedigree, and city only need to battle and overcome all odds against all adversity. Aguero would be like King Arthur fighting bravely against such dire circumstance, making him a real champion.
When in fact Liverpool are a poorly team that might try, but are in reality playing less superiors opposition that have been dressed up to fool us and make us think we are in the same game. In fact, it's in saying this that a light bulb has gone off. I did notice the west hams Collins wasn't actually the real Collins, but looked like it was actually Perry who hangs outside the local Tesco selling the real truth and eating his toe nails. It all makes sense now, we aren't playing the same opposition.
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Because a player plays in better team don't make him the better player. If that was the case then Luis would be the 10th best forward in the league. Not heard so much **** in my life. Last season he was the best play in league if it was not for his behaviour he would got the players award instead of bale. His missed four games at the start of the season and other the Ramsey can see him being close to getting the award this season
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In the car going to the match today radio city were debating the above and John Aldridge thought there was a pretty good case and they were comparing him with dalglish and some were saying he was better than dalglish.
I am currently thinking that one over slightly difficult as they had different strengths Kenny could read the game better but Suarez is better technically in my opinion but I am still mulling over.
Also on MOD on Wednesday robbie fowler said (jokingly but in half truth) that he dislikes Suarez as he makes the great strikers of the past look average.
It's a debating point but you can certainty put a very good case to say Suarez is the greatest ever Liverpool striker
Thoughts ? I think Dalglish was a much more intelligent player and therefore was also a great playmaker making others also score. Suarez however is miles ahead in terms of technical skills. Fowler and Rush were more clinical and they are all very different to each other. That said, Suarez is playing in a relatively weaker team but hasn't been the league top scorer yet unlike the other 3. They are all great scorers, but I think in our today's team, Suarez is the one which would have the most impact. Rush and Fowler would still need a top playmaker to score lots though Dalglish could get others to score which is one of the main weaknesses of Suarez, he is much more an individual player than KD. So I would say, not really comparable.
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Talking rubbish mate, and I'm pretty sure you're in the minority of the opinion that Suarez isnt on the same "platform" as aguero. I wont say anymore on it as its simply a waste of my time trying to debate it. If you're of the opinion that Aguero is better than Suarez simply because he plays in the champions league, you may as well extend that argument to say that Torres (on current form no less!!) is better than Suarez right now as he too plays in the champions league....something, which I think many would agree is a facile avenue of reasoning. Aguero has pressure on him to perform in nearly every single game he plays for because of Manchester City's expectation level, he plays in champions League games and also the hardest games of the lot which are League title run in games, he has demonstarted that he can score goals in the most important game ever when he won City the League, Suarez's biggest games for Liverpool was against Cardiff and C helsea in the Wembley finals both of which he flopped badly in. I would even go as far as to say Torres in the past has played and succeeded in bigger games than Suarez, Suarez biggest games in a season at Liverpool are probably against Everton and United as our season usualy ends in January or February each season, how anybody can compare Suarez to Aguero is beyond me when both play well at different levels each season because of the Clubs they play for. Of course it is going to be beyond you probably because of your level of reasoning.
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Aguero may be in the CL, but it's not as though City have ever come close to winning it. This is the first time they got out of the group stages. They play in the same league, and right now Suarez has scored 2 more goals, despite the fact that he missed 4 games. He gave Aguero a blood head start, and he's still outscoring him!
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Aguero may be in the CL, but it's not as though City have ever come close to winning it. This is the first time they got out of the group stages. They play in the same league, and right now Suarez has scored 2 more goals, despite the fact that he missed 4 games. He gave Aguero a blood head start, and he's still outscoring him! Coolflames or whatever his name is these days just looks for attention here and fair enough, he does get it. In a previous thread he said that Suarez is too big for the club and now Suarez is not great. He doesn't want to be reasoned, but just wants to wind up here until he gets banned. Then as soon as he can think of a new user name, he comes back. Pathetic life I would say.
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Aguero may be in the CL, but it's not as though City have ever come close to winning it. This is the first time they got out of the group stages. They play in the same league, and right now Suarez has scored 2 more goals, despite the fact that he missed 4 games. He gave Aguero a blood head start, and he's still outscoring him! Coolflames or whatever his name is these days just looks for attention here and fair enough, he does get it. In a previous thread he said that Suarez is too big for the club and now Suarez is not great. He doesn't want to be reasoned, but just wants to wind up here until he gets banned. Then as soon as he can think of a new user name, he comes back. Pathetic life I would say. Yea, and more often than not, other decent ones in here get dragged in to barnies and subsequently banned because of the rumpus and bad feelings and posts he helps create en route. Getting seriously p1ssed off with it all tbqh. He's a cunning sod though,I'll give him that, as he usually remains calm and polite with the crap that he scawls. Time the gaffer moved in and got shut once and for all...just my opinion I hasten to add.
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Suarez has as much if not more expectation than augero
Dalglish has got nothing to do with it
Stop clutching at straws you have been found out big time stanley how on earth do you work that one out, when you were having a go at Dalglish the thread went to over 80 pages long, I think you'll find my 'friend', that that was and had absolutely zero to do with him as a player, and that's what this thread is SUPPOSED to be about. IIRC, Stan has NEVER EVER critisised KD as a player, ever, so wind your neck in and zip it ey?
Last edited by Growler; 08/12/13 07:22 AM.
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