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Pops #377669 24/11/13 10:59 AM
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It was selfish due to the fact that Suarez was a guaranteed goal and he isn't a striker. Certainly if that was Sturridge in that position you would not expect him to pass but that's the difference between the positions. Like I said it wasn't the fact that he took the shot, it was the fact that he took the shot and missed so badly. He was certainly in a very good position himself to score. He not only missed, he didn't even hit the target.

If we had gone on to win this game we would've only been mentioning the incident as an afterthought. The reason we're talking about it so much is that not only did we not win the game, but we came within minutes of losing it.

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jammysht #377670 24/11/13 11:26 AM
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Was Suarez guaranteed a goal though? From what I remember he was more central, and so closer to Howard, meaning Allen was in the better position, the miss was truly awful, but I don't think it was selfish to take it on. Would Suarez have passed in that situation?

Also wasn't Suarez slightly infront of Allen when Allen took the shot? so any pass would have been flagged as offside

jammysht #377671 24/11/13 11:27 AM
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suarez was offside if allen passed, it was a tap in no need to pass, shiiite happens, hes a good enough bench warmer

Dogbox #377673 24/11/13 12:49 PM
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15m bench warmer....

wakka #377677 24/11/13 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: wakka
Downright embarrassing how one person is singled out everytime, always need someone to blame.

+1


Pete: Berg, I'm just not cut out to be a good person.
Berg: I know. That's why the Lord gave us good looks.

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WNP #377681 24/11/13 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: WNP
Was Suarez guaranteed a goal though? From what I remember he was more central, and so closer to Howard, meaning Allen was in the better position, the miss was truly awful, but I don't think it was selfish to take it on. Would Suarez have passed in that situation?

Also wasn't Suarez slightly infront of Allen when Allen took the shot? so any pass would have been flagged as offside
Would Suarez have missed in that situation? That's the question!! And yes, he would have been flagged offside if Allen had passed the ball to him. Allen is innocent on the account of not passing the ball but guilty on the account of not hitting the target.

imadk #377686 24/11/13 02:33 PM
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Allen wanted that goal and was never really going to pass the ball to Suarez. any clean shot on target and it would have been curtains for Everton. it was a crucial miss on hindsight - a very crucial one.Allen needs to buck up real soon but this is reality - if you sign for big money you are expected to perform. it is the same for any organization where there is accountability.

I agree thought that it would have been easier to label it all on Allen but the defense is just as culpable for their mistakes.

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Originally Posted By: imadk
Originally Posted By: WNP
Was Suarez guaranteed a goal though? From what I remember he was more central, and so closer to Howard, meaning Allen was in the better position, the miss was truly awful, but I don't think it was selfish to take it on. Would Suarez have passed in that situation?

Also wasn't Suarez slightly infront of Allen when Allen took the shot? so any pass would have been flagged as offside
Would Suarez have missed in that situation? That's the question!! And yes, he would have been flagged offside if Allen had passed the ball to him. Allen is innocent on the account of not passing the ball but guilty on the account of not hitting the target.


Not even I would have missed in that situation wink

WNP #377701 24/11/13 03:30 PM
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Was Suarez guaranteed a goal though? From what I remember he was more central, and so closer to Howard, meaning Allen was in the better position, the miss was truly awful, but I don't think it was selfish to take it on. Would Suarez have passed in that situation?

Also wasn't Suarez slightly infront of Allen when Allen took the shot? so any pass would have been flagged as offside
Would Suarez have missed in that situation? That's the question!! And yes, he would have been flagged offside if Allen had passed the ball to him. Allen is innocent on the account of not passing the ball but guilty on the account of not hitting the target.


Not even I would have missed in that situation wink


Suarez was just behind the ball when Allen gets to it, if he passed straight away instead of stopping to shoot he wouldn't have been offside. Very marginal though. Either way he shouldn't have missed the barn door.

jammysht #377709 24/11/13 04:28 PM
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Allen is a crock lets face it, he had to finish last season early because BR said he had a really bad shoulder injury. Im sorry but when did a shoulder effect someones ability to use his head and feet? poor excuse for an average player.

BR needs to admit defeat with this one, he's tried to move him up the field to show this phantom quality he raved about last pre-season. I am starting to believe BR feels sorry for joe and even sent suso out on loan to give joe a chance but its backfiring.

Allen's inclusion could potentially ruin this great start, not because everything is his fault its because he doesnt possess any qualities you can class as outstanding i.e. long range passing, tackling, finishing, through balls etc... everything is just good.

No doubt about it, 15m down the drain...on a brighter note at least we are complaining about a 7-8 mill loss on one player rather than the 35mil we lost with carroll and downing!

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