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I would just like to point out at this time, that, I regard myself superior to everyone else on this forum.
Thank you. from now on i shall refer to you as Wakkapedia. I suggest you adjust your nick accordingly.
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Over cautious my arse,we would never have seen that kinda spending if it wasn't for the Torres sale in the first place. Actually I don't think that's correct because if you compare our spending to the rest of the top 4, you'll actually notice we spent almost the same or more than united and Arsenal... So, we were spending like a big club, problem is, we bought dross with our money, especially during the Dalglish reign a couple of years ago. We wasted funds and it has cost us in more than one way, and on an enormous scale. FSG became very very cautious afterwards and rightly so. The damage inflicted by missing that window of oppurtunity and the money spent on Carroll, Adam, Downing and Hendo, has imo, held us back at least another 5 years. It was a massive mistake brought on mainly by FSG's inexperience in football at the time. The positive thing is that they learnt from their mistakes. If we've been put back 5 years by that particular net spend on the players mentioned then it just confirms that Mr Henry should stick to rounders. you see, that's where we disagree. Whilst he did make the mistake of appointing Kenny, i don't see any mistake in him actually backing the manger with funds. Now, at least he realised and corrected his mistake, which to me is the important factor. Also, whilst he did make a mistake, he also brought a lot of good to LFC which in the long run 10-20 years will reap benefits which far exceed the setback. If we are looking as Stanle suggests at man city's plan in a time frame of 20 years, we should use the same time frame when viewing our plans and development. So to sum up my opinion, FSG have done far more good than bad at LFC so far and are learning from their mistakes and rectifying them, which in the long term will make us a self sufficient, sustainable, powerhouse in terms of world football.
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There is no evidence to support that marko other than wishful thinking. We have got the odd sponsorship but a pinprick to what's needed at Liverpool.
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No evidence to support what? That they have done a lot of good at LFC? You gotta be kidding....
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No evidence to support what? That they have done a lot of good at LFC? You gotta be kidding.... Well yes that but also your comment we are on a roadmap to being a powerhouse Why ? How ? I have asked you this one before I think
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There is not better figure for PR than Dalglish. He is the club's biggest personality. This is why FSG need him on side. They don't care for him at all but they can wheel him out like the Pope when needed to win the fans over.
Liverpool declined under Souness because he tried too hard and too fast. The old guard weren't replaced while Dalglish which is why we started to lose a bit of specialness in the run up to his exit. His hasty decision to resign as he did set us back years in my opinion and I hold him more responsible for our decline than Souness because of this.
However he is a club legend and he cares about the club and the fans. Few do. That's a fairly balanced post Dunc, However I consider it harsh, if not in fact wrong, to hold Dalglish more responsible for our decline than Souness. Dalglish brought in good players during his time, did Souness? Dalglish left his successor a title winning team, and arguably one of the best in our history, did Souness? You say the old guard werent replaced leading to a loss of a bit of specialness, in the run up to Dalglish's exit, and that's why you hold him more responsible than Souness, but you don't take into account the extraordinary circumstances of the time, nor the fact that few managers would have made changes to an extraordinary team on it's way to winning the title...again! Did Fergie get rid of his long serving players in his last couple of title winning seasons? No he didn't. If Moyes does a Souness on them, will you say that you hold Fergie more responsible than Moyes? An experienced manager coming in after Dalglish left, would have made incremental changes, not a wholesale hatchet job, could you for example, imagine Fergie doing what Souness did? No Dunc, the blame for our team's demise, if we're still in the business of aportioning it, can',t be laid at Dalglish's door, regardless of Stanley Park's and Faz's mistaken opinions. The record shows the blame rests with Souness, in the main, for his misguided activities, and to a fair extent, the Board of directors, for their inactivity in the aftermath of his appointment, and long after he was gone. Totally agree with you, I have exactly the same views and I didn't go to games while you have. This argument that those going to games see things differently is a myth. To be fair to Dunk is that agree that the only thing I could blame KK is the way he left the club, but can we really, he couldn't take the pressure anymore, it was about his health.
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Dalglsh resigned just after the 4 - 4 draw Iat Goodson i was at that game. Liverpool were the better side by a mile player wise every time Liverpool went ahead Everton got one back. That was typical of the way the side was heading in that era and that was the straw that broke the back dalglish threw the towel in. But it was not that night but events of at least 18 months before. It's not something writing down but I am sure google would provide the results in the year immediately preceding the Everton game so we can see for sure. I have not seen the results but I will bet you they show us wining well then losing up and down up and down. That's how I remember it. But that was not liverpool standards back then but probably would be now. So come on marko you are the google expert lets see those results
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You lot trying for a new ' longest boring thread in the entire life of internet forums' award. I'm fast losing the will to live here you know listening to you rabbitin' on and on and on and on and on and on and on.........................................................................................................................................................in ever decreasing piggin' circles. FFS!! 
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Dalglsh resigned just after the 4 - 4 draw Iat Goodson i was at that game. Liverpool were the better side by a mile player wise every time Liverpool went ahead Everton got one back. That was typical of the way the side was heading in that era and that was the straw that broke the back dalglish threw the towel in. But it was not that night but events of at least 18 months before. It's not something writing down but I am sure google would provide the results in the year immediately preceding the Everton game so we can see for sure. I have not seen the results but I will bet you they show us wining well then losing up and down up and down. That's how I remember it. But that was not liverpool standards back then but probably would be now. So come on marko you are the google expert lets see those results Are you saying that a club should be champion every season? We were still top of the league when he resigned, if not second. It's normal to have a season worse than the previous one, has United always been champions during the last 20 years? No, they even came 3rd maybe even 4th (not sure) but then bought players or played better to win the league again as we did in the 80s.
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You lot trying for a new ' longest boring thread in the entire life of internet forums' award. I'm fast losing the will to live here you know listening to you rabbitin' on and on and on and on and on and on and on.........................................................................................................................................................in ever decreasing piggin' circles. FFS!! Like a circle in a spiral Like a wheel within a wheel Never ending or beginning On an ever spinning bloody reel
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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