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There is not better figure for PR than Dalglish. He is the club's biggest personality. This is why FSG need him on side. They don't care for him at all but they can wheel him out like the Pope when needed to win the fans over.

Liverpool declined under Souness because he tried too hard and too fast. The old guard weren't replaced while Dalglish which is why we started to lose a bit of specialness in the run up to his exit. His hasty decision to resign as he did set us back years in my opinion and I hold him more responsible for our decline than Souness because of this.

However he is a club legend and he cares about the club and the fans. Few do.

You see Stanley, why do you feel the need to attack and insult me when you know full well that John Henry is neither my mentor or idol. I suspect it is because you lack any actual evidence to support your argument. I never claimed you were wrong or right, i simply tried to explain to you that people's opinions differ and attacking them and saying they are working off google or wikipedia is uneccessary and childish.

I guarantee that not every fan who went to the same games you went to, agrees with you on this topic. Some do and some dont, which just goes to show that the fact you went to the games has no relevance whatsoever.

i don't think anyone on here has hailed KK's last reign as a huge success, but he did bring us at least some silverware, and i think we all agree the transfer business was a shambles...but to claim he intentionally did this to harm the club and wants to return to attack us is just silly imo.

Also, i am growing quite sick of your nonsense labelling me as John Henry's
protege and his employee simply because i disagree with you on the topic of FSG.

The months leading up to his quiting in 1991 remind me of the spell up to 2012 on both occassions the team was in freefall albeit the 1990 team had further to fall. Dalglish (non ipad spelling)seems to panic when in these situations and the press conferences around Jan 2012 were very remincent of 1991. I dont doubt he has tactical knowledge I have seen it on many occassions but I feel its his temperament that is the issue. Being a manager is a very demanding job and I dont think he has what it takes to survive that. Certainly reading Roy Evans and others pre 1991 he was very ill Hillsborough did not help but it was more than that. I think Liverpool would be better totally parting company with Dalglish but if they must have him on no account must he be given any dealings with the team, transfers or overall club strategy. He should be a hand shaker to promote the club only. We deviate from that at our peril. You may wonder why his subject animates me so that is because every word I write is from my own experiences which despite the power of the internet I still hold as my main arbiter.

I agree, no one epitomises LFC the way Kenny does. When you think Liverpool Football Club, you think KK as well. the man is like a brand on his own. This is why i said in the other thread "why FSG brought KK back", we should have no doubts that FSG know the value of everything and everyone. Can you imagine how much FSG would suffer if KK came out and publicly opposed them? They would lose a large number of supporters. KK loves the club though, there is no doubt it, and despite the fact that FSG's motives for bringing him back are not of a romantic nature, no one can seriously believe that KK is bad for the club, the clubs image or that he is intentionally trying to harm the club.

Marko Kennny Dalglish may love the club but what are you saying he is alone in that ?

He has also done pretty well financially out of the club over the years. In any case loving the club is no qualification for being the clubs manager. Incidently Marko my association (and love) with LFC started 14 years before Dalglish but to date the club has never paid me a penny.

Not sure he is the hero for fans with some fans yes for sure but not all. There are many fans who resent what Dalglish did.

It seems to me John Henry would have been wiser to go for a clean break. What will happen Marko is Rodgers has a very bad run ? There will be some fans who will call for Dalglish to take over putting extra pressure on the manager.

I dont think John Henry has thought this through although nothing new in that.

There can't be many fans who would actually want KD back as a manager. you've had plenty of debates and arguments with people about KD and the differing views you may have but in very few cases is there actually a clamour to bring him back.

Look Stanley, i am not saying Kenny should be manager, no one is, but as much as you love the club, Kenny has done more for the club, which is why he gets paid and you don't. Kenny still has something to offer the club in PR terms and selling the brand that is LFC, you don't. I mean no offence, but if you called me to work for you at LFC and Kenny did the same, i know who i would pick. If Kenny tried to sell me an autographed shirt, i'd buy it, if you did the same, i wouldn't, because i dont want your autograph. My point is, Kenny, the man, is an institution in his own right. He was brought back to the club, precisely for that reason, to exploit his popularity.

What happens if BR has a bad run? Nothing! He has a bad run. Firstly a vast majority would not call for KK to come back, secondly the few who did would be doing so in vain. We all know he would never be manager of LFC again in our lifetime. Yes some might call for it, but to no avail...

...and if BR felt pressure because of that, then he is not the right man for the job in the first place. A manager needs to be a man, a leader, a strong character with belief and self respect, not a little boy who would crumble under the first signs of pressure. Good managers perform under pressure, they rise above it, the overcome obstacles.

you need not worry, i guarantee KK will not manage LFC again whilst FSG are the owners. John Henry, as much as you dislike him, is not a stupid man.

John Henry is not stupid no in fact I worry he is too clever he has us lot worked out. But that's another story. Yes I guess I must concede most Liverpool fans would prefer kenny dalglish,s autograph to mine.

But why go there ? Why risk him undermining a future manager and why upset some fans by bringing him back. I know you will say its only me that's feels resentment over the dalglsh damage I assure you, you are wrong there.

So why risk it when there are good candidates like rush Barnes or Hansen ? It does not make sense to me

I agree especially the part in bold, was really annoyed and angry, to say the least, when he left so abruply and we declined as you say because of this (but mainly because Souness was not up to the job), not because KD was a crap manager as some think here, but, because he left. I blamed him then for that, but afterwards understood that he couldn't take it anymore, he was honest enough with himself to take that decision. That said, what I also admire is that he left the job when he felt he was no longer able to do it, to the standards he wanted it done (he was sick or not motivated or whatever), most managers would have waited to be sacked.

In his second spell he made mistakes buying players because he had been out of the game for too long, he didn't know enough players around especially outside UK plus I don't think we had a proper scouting system and the director of football whose main role is to find players and negotiate the purchases didn't really help. His tactical nous was so eveident when he took over the team he inherited from Roy (some will call it feel good factor or such kind of nonsense).

I am sure that if he could stay in the 90s, we would have been champions again as proven when Balckburn,yes Blackburn, won the EPL, something that LFC hasn't done yet. Some would say he got resources, but hasn't Mourinho or Mancini or before them Fergie had huge resources to win the EPL?

Dunk, if you haven't been going to games for the last 40 or 50 years, I think some people here will say that you do not have enough experience to have sound judgement.

Because there is no bloody risks, you are seeing ghosts everywhere.