Dave Whelan is right - the root of our problems start with the owners.
Sorry emp, but I don't agree with your own and many other similar comments from others that "Rafa is destroying everything"!
Since Rafa and the players are the frontline reps of our damaged club, it is easy for us to take out our anger on them.
If a new manager comes in, we still have the same problem with the owners, no money to buy in decent players, and the new manager will have to make do with the players he has.
The owners need to go first, get rid of the debt and put in place plans and money for a new stadium. If the owners are gone and Rafa and the majority of players are still at the club then I will be prepared to support them all again.
To rebuild the club from scratch properly and start over again will take at least 5 years, if new owners come in at the end of the season why not give Rafa another year or 2?
More fool me you say!