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To me, todays results just show that regardless of spending, anyone can beat anyone. The gap between the highest spenders and the lowest spenders is getting smaller and smaller in terms of points.

Why do people go on about Man weak team. Didn't we beat them without are best player a few weeks ago?

We did beat their strongest team a couple weeks ago. I'll take the league win over the cup win any day.

On, bang, nail, head, correct, spot on, end of, goodnight.

Read, digest, and shut TF up with all the moanin'!

(we can try ey KP, but alas, I fear it'll all fall on deaf ears and blind eyes.)

100% correct Growler.

haha. if you think this thread is about one result then you obviously haven't understood it.

and it's not moaning, it's evaluation, loud thinking. We're just trying to fathom out what's going on. Yes sometimes defeats can be put down to something that can happen on any given day, but sometimes that's not the case. There are times when bad results tell you something, especially when there's a pattern. I think that's called 'form' in sporting parlance isn't it?

For the neutral, it would be a great league where all the teams are so close that results every week are unpredictable. We'd then just take each game in isolation and see where everyone is at the end of it all. and if that could be any of the 20 teams that would be great.

However, we know that's not the reality. Some teams are far stronger hence less prone to the random results. That's the context in which we're evaluating. Have we improved towards where we want to be, i.e. part of the elite pack, or are we now part of the bunch of teams that can be good on one day and poor the next, or just generally average if not erratic.

In that respect, our form is not good and I'd say that the midweek result was a sign of that rather than a one off result, and that yesterday's result provided additional evidence.

- we got a lucky point away to Swansea (we were gifted two goals and were under the kosh for most of the 2nd half)

- we lost at home to Southampton

- then the defeat in midweek to a team suffering their worst start for 20 years. they'd just been heavily beaten by their local rivals, and by all accounts they deserved to lose yesterday. Yet we didn't even ruffle their feathers.

Let's see what today brings. Hopefully it'll be and end to our recent run of poor results.

Hold on, we beat man utd's strongest 11 without our key player, we got 3 wins in a row at the start followed by an away draw. That's pretty decent "form" if you ask me. If we win today we go 2nd, again pretty good form.

Possibly, but I'd say whatever happens today, our situation is fragile.

Our first three 1-0 wins were good. Deserved by most accounts, but still very narrow. Since then it appears that we've failed to cope with the loss of Coutinho and one or two defenders.

a win today would of course be most welcome. It should be expected given Sunderland's predicament. But we all know football doesn't work like that, especially for us in recent years.

Here's a question, if we fail to win, will we put it down to 'it happens'... 'anything can happen on any given day' ?

We'll put it down to a dip in form...well I will. unless if I feel otherwise, however, yes we had 3 narrow 1-0 wins, but is that not what defines great teams? Being able to gring out the 1-0 wins when needed.

That's exactly what we're trying to establish. are our recent results just due to a dip in form? or were our early results just a blip?

Yes they do say that about great teams, but only if they've done it consistently throughout the season, and at other times they've comfortably beaten teams. i.e. the streaky 1-0 wins are usually their low point, barring the very rare defeat/draw. In our case, those have so far been our high points.

Hopefully we'll get a couple of thumping results soon, starting today.