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No I'm not mistaken. You need to put in to context, he's 20 years old already and cost 8m. His positioning is good, but his passing is sloppy and his shooting is weak. There better players than him in the academy who are younger and cost nothing in comparison.

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Originally Posted By: Prolific Borini
TrueRed perhaps you and I have differing opinions about some players, but that doesn't justify you calling me a WUM or implying my way of thinking is moronic, which you did in another post.

just because i see something in Alberto and Aspas doesn't mean i am not right or that i am right. I watched both last season, especially Aspas at Celta Vigo. I have seen what kind of player he is and i feel that if he just settles and gains a bit of confidence, he could be a monster of a signing. Alberto is young but has been fantastic for both Sevilla and our reserves in every game.

i dont know how much you have watched him, but I have and i see that he has a spark about him.

Either way, refrain from your insults please, otherwise i will simply ignore your posts and cease debating with you, which isn't in either of ours, or the forums interest.


Ok Ok, you're not a wind up merchant. Fair enough, I appologise. It's just that sometimes you come across like that.

But from now on I shall treat all of your posts with the sincerity they deserve.

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No I'm not mistaken. You need to put in to context, he's 20 years old already and cost 8m. His positioning is good, but his passing is sloppy and his shooting is weak. There better players than him in the academy who are younger and cost nothing in comparison.


I was asking the same question on Saturday. Our academy must be crap if they can't penetrate this first team.

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No I'm not mistaken. You need to put in to context, he's 20 years old already and cost 8m. His positioning is good, but his passing is sloppy and his shooting is weak. There better players than him in the academy who are younger and cost nothing in comparison.


I was asking the same question on Saturday. Our academy must be crap if they can't penetrate this first team.


Looking at it in context, strikers and midfielders hit their peak between 26 and 30 years of age. So he is not already 20, he is only 20...As you said, it's about context.


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Originally Posted By: Prolific Borini


Looking at it in context, strikers and midfielders hit their peak between 26 and 30 years of age. So he is not already 20, he is only 20...As you said, it's about context.


Most Strikers hit their peak between 24 and 26, a lot even earlier than that, it's very rare for strikers to hit their peak as late as you're suggesting, as for Wingers it's usually a lot earlier than that.

...but you're getting away from the discussion at hand, Alberto cost 8m, he should be ready now. If he's going to be playing in the U21's, then it was a massive waste of money considering most youth players cost 2m or less.

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Owen and fowler were 17 and 18 respectively. Complete none sense you have to be 28. If aspas shows no signs it's because he is no good not because of his age.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Owen and fowler were 17 and 18 respectively. Complete none sense you have to be 28. If aspas shows no signs it's because he is no good not because of his age.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Owen and fowler were 17 and 18 respectively. Complete none sense you have to be 28. If aspas shows no signs it's because he is no good not because of his age.


And Rooney started to bang them in at 17. That said we are not talking about the same class here, to even think that Aspas would be in that mix is delusional. If he could at least be a Michu, I would be happy, but then we don't need to wait a lot for that, Michu started to show his qualities quite early with the Swans.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Owen and fowler were 17 and 18 respectively. Complete none sense you have to be 28. If aspas shows no signs it's because he is no good not because of his age.


Exactly, Owen broke on to the scene at 17 and was hitting over 20 goals a season at 18.

Fowler hit 31 goals for Liverpool when he was 19.

Mcmanaman played over 50 games for the club at 19.

Torres was playing for A.Madrid in the Spanish 2nd division at 16, he broke the 20 goal mark in La Liga at 19.

Rooney was a first team regular at Everton at 17.

That's the standard we should be looking for. Not Aspas who at 26 only has 1 season under his belt in top flight and Alberto who at 20 is dumped in to the U21 squad.

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Originally Posted By: vish LFC
If he could at least be a Michu, I would be happy, but then we don't need to wait a lot for that, Michu started to show his qualities quite early with the Swans.


That's exactly it, Rodgers was clearly hoping that Aspas would be his Michu, the problem is Aspas cost 4 times as much as Michu.

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