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We signed Toure, who surprised Rodgers enough that he didn't mind sitting out to find the right target (and I guess) hope to bring the price down a little. We did go for Papa right at the start too, (even if there is this continued belief that for some reason we went into the transfer dealings with no intent haha) but he was very highly priced... The club deliberated waiting to see how he returned from injury. Maybe even hold off on him until January. Sakho became available, Papa got injured, the rest is history. If that was/is the case, I would say it was as irresponsible as the forward player saga last year (ending up with only Suarez as a proper striker). How can anybody feel that we can afford to take a risk without a proper back up for Agger and Toure with Skrtel not wanted by BR and maybe wait until Jan. The rest will be history if we don't end up losing our game on Sunday because we do not have a proper centre half and we do sign Sakho in the next couple of days. What would you have had them do?! They either sign a worse player, sign a comparable for more than they're worth, or they settle for Skrtel who made a couple mistakes but was Player of the Season from a year before... He isn't suddenly the reason we aren't a top 4 team. And signing somebody that they don't think will be good enough is illogical. You might want them to spend, but it would have meant cutting funds elsewhere. The objective in the window is clear. Sign the right player with as much money as we feel they are worth to the team... I'd much rather have that, than what we've had before. I'm not sure how people can't see the benefit of doing whats best long-term... That is why I say patience... If we need a winger, and they are all over-priced, why settle?! Bring the youngster through and wait until the right one comes available... You say you work in business. That is logical business sense and nothing to do with making profit...
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A marquee would change everything JJ - they need to put their money where their mouths are! Simples! +1 I just fear the clubs "marquee" signing, will never fulfil the "marquee" the fans are aiming for. Sakho, for me, is a marquee signing.
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A marquee would change everything JJ - they need to put their money where their mouths are! Simples! +1 I just fear the clubs "marquee" signing, will never fulfil the "marquee" the fans are aiming for. Sakho, for me, is a marquee signing. Maybe but then again Eriksen for me would have been marquee. I class a marquee player as someone who can change/win us a game.. Sakho could do that i surpose but id prefer an attacker.
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Of course it could all be a very clever plan that gets brilliantly executed.
So far all these transfers that have gone through to Spurs and also with Willian to Chelsea have gone through at top dollar. We have been the first club linked with the players Spurs have signed. They have possibly spent £20m over the top on these signings because they have supposedly had competition to the players from us.
Arsenal have not signed anyone at all and neither have United. They both have money to spend and are both in the CL. Are they playing a similar game to us.
The one thing I don't see us doing is panicking at the moment despite it being well known we are looking for players in certain positions or need decent cover.
The Suarez situation has given us the perfect excuse to not go around spending cash all over the place like Spurs who are spending the Bale money early to replace some old and failed players. We have not got a windfall of cash from that sale so are not being held to ransom. Whilst we express an interest in a player we are helping bump the price up which is handy if we don't actually want them.
We didn't get Micky or Willian or Lamela or a whole host of others because we are probably after certain players who will make the team better.
I always said that if we signed two more like we got in Sturridge and Coutinho that we would be challenging for top 4. Those two for £20m was amazing. You could not buy one of them for that now.
We might be frustrated by what our owners are doing but if they pull off a couple more major coups like in January we will have to rewrite the meaning of astute.
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A marquee would change everything JJ - they need to put their money where their mouths are! Simples! +1 I just fear the clubs "marquee" signing, will never fulfil the "marquee" the fans are aiming for. Sakho, for me, is a marquee signing. Maybe but then again Eriksen for me would have been marquee. I class a marquee player as someone who can change/win us a game.. Sakho could do that i surpose but id prefer an attacker. Right now (actually since Skrtel fell out), we need a centre half more than anything else. Carra who stepped up off the bench was not the answer and on top of that retired
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A marquee would change everything JJ - they need to put their money where their mouths are! Simples! +1 I just fear the clubs "marquee" signing, will never fulfil the "marquee" the fans are aiming for. Sakho, for me, is a marquee signing. Maybe but then again Eriksen for me would have been marquee. I class a marquee player as someone who can change/win us a game.. Sakho could do that i surpose but id prefer an attacker. We always prefer an attacker to be a marquee signing as they are the guys that win you games. Defenders are usually more likely to cost you games. We still need to look at value. Why shop at Tesco or Sainsbury's when sometimes an equal product or a better fitting one can be bought from Aldi or Lidl? You buy expensive things they are expensive to maintain. It costs more to service a Range Rover than a Ford Focus. But in certain situations one is a far better fit than the other. Spurs have bought some very expensive players. It looks good on paper. If AVB does not finish top 4 in each of the next two years he will not work in English football again. We are building something special and I think we went for a short cut that did not work and so we started again last season. Progress is slow for some but look at the whole picture and judge on results and improvement made.
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And they have both finished higher than us in the EPL table for how many years on a row?
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Are you aware we're signing at least 4 players or not? Jj, not one of them has signed yet. Keep your knickers on bud...
No,this is not a good town for psychedelic drugs.Reality itself is too twisted.
We can't stop here, this is bat country!
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If you watch the video he explains why wilkij1975.
Look, I think they're being damned either way. They look for value in the market and get criticised for not paying more. They pay more and they get criticised for over-paying. They get criticised for not building a strong enough squad. They get criticised for spending too much on salaries. They get criticised for selling players that actually aren't playing but costing the club money. They get criticised for choosing to stay at Anfield rather than fund a stadium. They get criticised for not investing millions from their own pocket to fund everything... And then, why they change how they work and spend they get criticised against the mistakes they've admitted and changed... WHERE DOES IT END?!
I'm baffled by the sheer hatred towards the owners. I'll be severely disheartened if fans drive them out. They're not the best thing since sliced bread, but they are proven successful owners... And despite not spending big on players, and purely signing players with some talent in form... Now they're criticised for missing out on what, 4 players, for signing players people haven't seen but judged already. Some other Liverpool fans have rarely been as fickle as they appear today.
All this talk of "we need to spend big" ... If we sign top players for good prices, they are still top players. Mignolet has been great for Sunderland. He has saved us at least 2 pts already, and still some people want to moan, others now think he is the best keeper ever. Toure was "shocking," now he is "formidable and brilliant," Aspas is criticised for not scoring... which is laughable because up until Notts County, only Sturridge had... Sakho looks like he is soon to sign and now there is criticism they are over-spending... It is hilarious. I'll be glad when the window closes. Not because I don't adore the rumour mill, because I revel in it... purely because I don't have to put up with fans moaning that we're not spending, when in fact, as I stated right at the start, we will, we are, we'll continue to.
What's the issue? Criticism, moaning etc. comes with the job. It should be welcomed as it keeps the owners, manager and the players on their toes. You should understand that just a few seasons ago LFC had a top European manager, were ranked no 1 in the Europe, won the CL & finished within 4 points of the title. (all under G&H as well). That's where we want to be, but in 2-3 seasons we seem to have made zero progress in getting there. We even failed to qualify for the Europa League this season. So what else do you expect from the fans except from apprehension, suspicion, doubt etc. We'll believe it when we see it is the mantra now. Some of your statements are unfair. The fans appreciate looking for value in the market, especially the match going fans who pay higher prices to fund the lifestyle of the players, the manager and the owners. No fan will criticise the club for paying high fees/salaries for/to players who justify them, subject to affordability. But the fans have every right to criticise £35m being spent on andy carrol in a fit of panic. There will always be fans with differing views whilst we're not winning/showing progress. For each issue though, it won't always be the same fans who are criticising or expressing an opposing view. In any case, this is the life of a football fan. That's what fans do - they dream the solutions that they unfortunately don't have the power to make happen. any owners or managers should understand this and should be tough enough to ride it out, especially if they have conviction in and passion for what they're doing. If they can't do that, they're in the wrong game.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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Fair enough, but some of the comments make you think that ten billionairs are standing in line to acquire the club and FSG are holding them.
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