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Thinking about our problems it might stem from John Henry clearly having no interest in the sport.. For all I know he may avidly watch every game with cans of beer and Doritos. But that's not the impression.
Yes these guys are businessmen but normally they do have some passion for the sport. Look at abromovich (spelling) you can see he watches and supports the club. Cities owners watch and even the glaziers have shown an interest.
Whereas our feller turns up once every couple of years. He clearly sees us entirely as an investment and he must be annoyed at those pesky requests for money from those Limeys who are always mithering.
Same with Tom Werner he is supposed to have some management role in the club but seems to have gone AWOL.
Yes I don't care either whether they turn up as long as the club s successful but I feel this clear lack of interest in the sport by our owner is the underlying reason we are in the situation we are. Totally agree with you, have said it before, Abramovich is a huge fan of Chelsea and as such, injects his own money to see HIS CLUB become successful. As fans we take pleasure and pride to spend on our team and would like to watch them as often as possible. For FSG, LFC is only an investment, only positive thing that could come out of that is the value of the investment will increase with success, however, if success means spending more than the increase in value, then success is not attractive anymore. Therefore, their objective is to run the club in the most effective and efficient way (as a business), any success will come as a bonus.
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It reminds me of rafas time at the club abit, Manager that could bring us success but is not backed. no rafa was a nightmare. the anti football manager. total opposite to BR. IF rafa was the owner and manager he would pick a fight with himself. This anti football seems to work for Maureen.
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Abramovic is only a huge fan of Chelsea because he had to be seen to be. Now he's started to see the rewards of the hundreds of millions he's spent, of course he would have had his head turned around to football, but at the beginning it was quite different: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmCtci6cen8
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Abramovic is only a huge fan of Chelsea because he had to be seen to be. Now he's started to see the rewards of the hundreds of millions he's spent, of course he would have had his head turned around to football, but at the beginning it was quite different: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmCtci6cen8 Probably, so what? There are always reasons for everything in life, botton line is, he is a huge fan and as it is said in the interview, he is a good thing for Chelsea.
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the sad thing is BR is so close , he plays great football in fairness to him, doesn't chop and change, never looks for draws away from home. ok he talks sh1te and was a bit too obsessed with allenista borinmessi types when he first came in but it he has learnt along the way.
if fsg gave him 40m+ this summer we could easily have challenged for the title. In what shape or form is BR so close? His highest achievment in his whole football career is finishing 7th with one of the biggest clubs in the world. I know what you're saying about great football, we are brilliant.....for about 30 mins out of 90 or until we have a 1-0 lead. How could we have easily competed for the title, we haven't been anywhere near for 5 years and even then it wasn't easy. Brendan has spent nearly 80m and hasn't done anything more than teams who have spent a quarter of that. Stop blaming other people and look at our manager.
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No,this is not a good town for psychedelic drugs.Reality itself is too twisted.
We can't stop here, this is bat country!
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It reminds me of rafas time at the club abit, Manager that could bring us success but is not backed. Rafa before joining us - 2 2nd division promotions with different clubs. 2 La Liga titles 1 UEFA cup Rafa's first season at LFC - UEFA Champions League League Cup Final 5th in the EPL 42m Spent on 8 players. Brendan Rodgers before joining LFC - 1 promotion from the championship. 11th place in the EPL First season at LFC - 7th in the EPL 52m spent on 6 players and a loan. Rafa's 2nd season - 3rd in EPL1 FA cup, 1 Super cup, Last 16 Champions League - 26.7m on 14 players. BR's 2nd season - 25m on 4 players and a loan. Really comparable situations. 1 has no success, but spends wildly, the other has a great pedigree and buys superbly.
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Rafa also had Stevie G and Carragher coming into their prime. Stevie G alone won many games for us as he matured. We had the great Finn and Finnan was still very solid. We also had the calmness of Didi in the centre.
I dont see why we should compare BR and Rafa. Rafa came with a reputation while BR is a young manager with a philosophy. We should stop comparing what we did in the 70s,80s and 90s and look forward. football has changed, we should to.
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Emp makes some very good points. BR is a good manager, and the players seem to have no issue with him. He just needs some money.
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BR's not impressed me at all. We talk about Raffa but just compare BR to other top4 managers. There's 3 ways of assessing a manager.
1) The tactics and knowledge of the game.
2) Man management
3) Club management.
1) Still has a lot to learn. Some of the substitutions he makes leave me speechless. Putting Sterling at right back against County when both of their previous goals had come from the right exploiting Wisdoms weakness. Anyway, there are more examples but not for here.
2) A very, very big fail here for me. Players have left the club who would have played with a broken leg in past seasons. Na, too many things don't add up.
3) Compared to Fergie, Raffa, Wenger, Kenny..... BR is a little puppy. Ok, I guess i's easy to be positive headstrong about your teams abilities when you have a good side but really BR comes across as a 'yes' man and has yet to make an LFC impression in the media for me. I'm prepared to cut him a little slack in thinking he's been bummed by FSG just as much as we have and if that's the case it's got to be hard smiling when your ring stings !
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