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I find it funny how alot of you guys here saying William isn't worth 30 mil and there is better option for that price. Its easy to always say there's better but could someone identify a 30 mil player that we can realistically get. The reason for the buzz surrounding William was because we were in a position to sign a top player who actually was willing to come to us. I say top player because he was linked to top teams and not a Everton or west ham but Chelsea and man city. So I ask again we are short on ten flanks seeking a marquee signing who do you guys think is available, because all the players that come to mind a debate will still arrive, perfect example, Amelia from Roma is going for 25 mil according to the club Luis Muriel one that I think would be perfect is valued at 40 mil some sources are reporting, even if his value goes down to 25 mil there is still the case of he hasn't achieved anything and we would be buying based potential. So while I do believe 30 was alot for William its the price we have to pay for our current position.
So the perfect player may be valued at £40m but suddenly if he is worth £25m we are then buying based on potential. Can you make up your mind please? I just get the feeling that there are some who will not be happy until we sign someone for £30m+ to show we have some balls. We will buy who we can based on a budget. It is not a bottomless pit of cash that has to be spunked on one player. Its as simple as everyone wants quality signing no one wants to pay the money for a quality signing. William isn't worth it according to most of you. So show me the players that have the quality we all are demanding. Everyone is stating the problem and no one has a solution. I can assure you the players name that will come up are going to be in the same price range. You guys believe that we are the only one that can identify that a player is good the players club also knows the worth and puts the price accordingly. We can have one of 2 ways expect to pay high prices on proven skills (skills that 90% of the time rather play champion league) or Buy cheap players with high risk of never finding form or living up to expectation, either way its never going to be the perfect situation. Alot of you praise coutinho cause of his price and what we got in return and same with Sturridge but no one mentions we never expected nothing spectacular we were all hoping to get sniedjer but that situation worked out for us. Now I say this we just sold downing a starting winger we need a first team player are we going to buy cheap hoping it will work out or spend the money we have to get a proven player. Say what you want about spurs but I don't see them cheaping out on targets. They just spent nearly 30 mil on saldado at the age of 28, I'm sure when we were going for him ppl complain that it isn't good value for money. But look around now who are the striking options available to buy?
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I posted a host of options... On the transfer page too... So... There are suggestions around.
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I posted a host of options... On the transfer page too... So... There are suggestions around. I saw the list earlier and while I scroll through it some issue also came about for each one. Some people might complain the player isn't a marquee signing some might be but they wouldn't come to us while there's still the issue of the price being demanded. Eriksson said he want champions league so Hes out as I said before, ppl on here is complaining about players but the truth is there is never going to be the ideal situation and someway somehow lfc will have to bite the bullet when it comes to buying players because at the moment we aren't that desirable so whatever needs to be done to get in who we want, I say go for it, unless what is being asked is ridiculous.
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Well first of all, I don't think marquee signing is even in the heads of the transfer committee. For want of better wording that fails me, it is about the team, and not the fans opinions of it.
Secondly, for all we all might think we know a lot about every player, that I just listed for you EVERY player on football manager with their argument their potential is very, very good, and you're saying they're all at best problematic in some way... Of course they are, they are top players. But they are top or potentially top players. Based on most FM ratings, they should turn out at worst good players...
Let me put it this way. I am sure, if the club had decided to, we could have signed everything to please us fans right now. Ince could have come in as a winger, Williams could have been signed as a centre-half. We might even have plumped for Bony for £12m, and Wanyama for £12m and decided that we've done our business. But the people in charge of our transfers now, are top of the line scouts. Guys that know about players and their abilities in far more detail than we'd like to imagine they do.
If you are asking me whether I'd have linked business done already, of course I'd have said yes... but if you're telling me we could get better players if we sit out the window and aim higher, and potentially miss out short-term, I'd go for the latter every time.
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Well first of all, I don't think marquee signing is even in the heads of the transfer committee. For want of better wording that fails me, it is about the team, and not the fans opinions of it.
Secondly, for all we all might think we know a lot about every player, that I just listed for you EVERY player on football manager with their argument their potential is very, very good, and you're saying they're all at best problematic in some way... Of course they are, they are top players. But they are top or potentially top players. Based on most FM ratings, they should turn out at worst good players...
Let me put it this way. I am sure, if the club had decided to, we could have signed everything to please us fans right now. Ince could have come in as a winger, Williams could have been signed as a centre-half. We might even have plumped for Bony for £12m, and Wanyama for £12m and decided that we've done our business. But the people in charge of our transfers now, are top of the line scouts. Guys that know about players and their abilities in far more detail than we'd like to imagine they do.
If you are asking me whether I'd have linked business done already, of course I'd have said yes... but if you're telling me we could get better players if we sit out the window and aim higher, and potentially miss out short-term, I'd go for the latter every time. that's not what im saying at all. The original topic was about willian and his price and I was saying no matter where we look now there is going to be some problem coming up and we should go for the one that as some greater good to the team. Most of the ppl complaining couldn't give a solid alternative.
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The whole point I was making is we are not spending enough to compete I could not give a toss if we paid 35 million for Willian he would be worthwhile at 25 years old, City and Spurs have spent fortunes again we are never going to get top 4 spending like we are Tottenham are miles ahead of us now Arsenal we might be somewhere close if we over perform.
All this Carroll stuff was simply because we got 50 for Torres stupid buy but that was the fact.
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City have money to burn and Spurs are only spending what they'll get for Bale. We don't have the money to just spend £35m whenever we please. And to say you don't think he's worth it well that's just stupid! Was Carroll worth the money?
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I posted a host of options... On the transfer page too... So... There are suggestions around. saw that jj not any were regular goal scorers and thats what we need a winger who scores or midfielder that scores and assists we creat lots of goals we have the tricky little players we needed someone like costa or martinez bigger types we lack size someone who won't get knocked off the ball how many goals did Willian score last season?
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Is there a credible source or any proof to substantiate the story that Willian wanted to come to us but we refused to up our bid by 3 million?
I know this is what 'Macca' said on the Football Rumours site and people seem to trust his information... but he has been wrong quite a bit recently. Apart from him I'm not sure where this rumour is coming from. I saw this from Macca yes however having seen our dealings on Dempsey it makes complete logic to me. Spurs are not champs league either Liverpool must be better to live in than Russia so could only be money really but I could be wrong.
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1st Team Squad
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ANDREX, Why would you assume Liverpool is better to live in than Russia? The Anzhi Makachkala players were all based in Moscow not in Makachkala. MOSCOW is a beautiful and world famous city. I was lucky enough to travel there on business last year, i only stayed a few days but trust me, its a beautiful place.
Last edited by Prolific Borini; 22/08/13 09:45 AM.
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