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Spot on.

What's all this 'Voice Of The People ' bollox at the start of the vid btw?
Can speak for myself thanks.

By the way, the people claiming we should sell Suarez (at £40million) and be done with it seem be ignoring the obvious, who at this time is available and who will come to us (a none champions league team) that can score 30+ goals a season?

Thought you lot could too.
Becoming a dictatorship in here.

May I politely suggest Mr Oldham kindly removes that line in future please as I find it offensive.

we need to look at it this way: if suarez stayed he would only be able to play in 32 league games, last season he scored 23 goals in 33 league games. He would not score that many next season because he wants to leave and would be sulking. So lets say he would score 15-20 max, and then he would be worth less money due to being a year older with on less year on his contact.

we need to sell, but we should not sell to Arsenal under any circumstances! if we could get £40m from anyone else we should take it. 15-20 goals is not that hard to replace.

Yeah there's two sides to every story.

If he wants to leave let him go but s KP says, make sure we get the right price for him.

Whatever you think of Suarez, he is a top player and understandably wants to play in the CL.

Whilst I completely agree with you, the highlighted part is nothing more than an assumption and so isn't entirely accurate. I imagine Suarez may sulk but going into a World Cup year (and whilst looking to move to another club), surely he'd be better off giving it his all, just as Alonso did in his last season.

Whichever way you look at it, he has disrespected the club to the point of near dis-repair. I think he has proven to show little respect. At the age of 26, he is hardly an old footballer. He is within the constraints of his peak, and he has missed near a half a season of his 2 and a half at the club. It means, the players has been here for 2 years, and already thinks he is better than the club. I find that a disgrace. Not quite as strong as I found Benteke a disgrace for his antics after one season, but two years at one club is not loyalty. Bale and Van Persie showed truer loyalty at their clubs, for a longer period of time while they've been great. I'm startled by the suggestion he thinks not even 100 games is enough.

I know some people would say disloyalty is wide-spread. I know people will say "but he isn't local, so it is not about being loyal" but it is. He signed a 4 year deal. Why would you sign that if you didn't intend to stick out half of it with the club. His comments have tarnished his reputation more. His accusations the club had agreed to sell him have missed out one vital piece of information. "AT THE RIGHT PRICE." I wouldn't be surprised if he has mis-read the information at hand. The club would NEVER have agreed to sell him after BRs first season if we never made the Champions League, because we weren't looking to be in a position to challenge for that. You can't turn around a squad in one window, which is indirectly what Suarez is suggesting. I think it is a scandalous, non-foundationed accusation.

He has a price, like any other at the club. He has just stopped the club from receiving an offer over £50m now with his antics. He is a disgrace for talking to the press about it, when the club has been transparent in its own statement. Until an offer comes in at near his asking price, then the club has no conversation to hold. He may want CL football, but joining a rival club shows much greater malice towards the club than I think most thought he'd choose to commit to.

Maybe it is all a rouse... Maybe it isn't. Maybe he still wants Madrid, and he is speaking out because the Bale bid hasn't gone through and he thinks they'll come for him if he does. Whichever way it is, if his contract is watertight, I would contemplate telling him he has 1 final season giving his all, like the club are most likely to have promised him in the first place, and I'd push the owners to prove the ambition by signing another top player to prove it. It is not that I am saying "we need him desperately" because I think his contribution is replaceable, just not his unique talent... But I think it is replaceable at £55-60M, and not £40M (keep the change).

Rush to Juventus
McManaman to Madrid
Owen to Madrid
Gerrard to Chelsea

Footballing reasons, I understood that they would all think they would have better opportunities to actually WIN things that can reflect their careers.

Suarez to Arsenal - just makes no sense to me. Yes they will be a player but will they out do City, Chelsea or Utd? If his only goal is to play in Champions League then his ambition seems small. I truly believe its about money. He will get a signing on fee and that is his motivation.
He is a modern day mercenary, and we need to ditch the baggage to try to move forward. £40 million could buy 2 - 3 players that would arguably improve the team, more than a single Suarez.

If he actually hands in a request we should openly put a value on his head. Before the window I would have easily taken £40m, but as this has already been offered I'd say we will sell at £50m and see if other parties come forward to negotiate.

Worked out well for Mickey that one

Gordon Taylor has confirmed that the Professional Footballers' Association are helping Luis Suarez with his bid to leave Liverpool but admitted the striker could be left in limbo due to the ambiguous clause in his contract.

Suarez has claimed the Anfield club are refusing to honour an agreement that allows him to join a Champions League side for a fee of over £40million, after they rejected an offer in excess of that amount from Arsenal.

Liverpool insist that, under the terms of the deal, they are under no obligation to sell and only have to inform the Uruguayan that a bid has been made for his services.

Speaking on the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast, Taylor desribed it is a 'delicate situation' and revealed his fears that the saga could rumble on and on.

“These buy-out clauses have caused no end of problems in the past and they continue to do so because of the way they were drafted at the time,” he said.

“He believes the £40m amount that is mentioned, if that is offered that gives him the right to go.

"Liverpool, from their side, are saying that is a minimum figure from which they will consider negotiation and of course they will want to keep the player, unless they replace the player with someone as good or better, which is not going to be easy in a short period of time.

"We have raised this issue with the Premier League, that buy-out clauses should have a great deal more clarity because I’ve never seen one yet that hasn’t caused trouble.

"It’s also down to discussions Luis had with the manager as well and of course you have the owners involved.

“There are different ways it can be interpreted. If it goes to the Premier League it will take time and the window is then closed. It is a delicate situation and we are trying to help.

“We have been asked to try and help to sort the situation out and we have been trying to do that.

"The lad has had a chequered past but he is also an extremely good footballer and this is about a situation on the interpretation of a contract.

"You want contracts to be straight forward and clear and on this issue it is not clear. It is open to different interpreation by lawyers so, at the end of the day, it is about if an agreement can be reached."