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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
oh its only souness the greatest captain one of the true greats who is a cheat ? , look shaggy ray kennedy knocked mike lyons out , terry mc got sent off for it along with everton's gary stanley , jimmy case, tommy smith all knocked players out many times , clem used to knocked players heads off at corners , bruce would just take players out , but all winners all greats the liverpool way take no sh1t from anyone , but suppose its doesnt mean anything no more that winners ,legends, greats .


We were discussing one incident involving Souness, no one else.

But it's hard to have a sensible debate with someone who thinks that having double standards is perfectly acceptable.

As I said it was an unbelievable post, an amazing thing to admit.
only discuss what you choose now ?

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i dealt in facts mate and i have not called liverpool greats dirty vile cheats how disgusting to call liverpool true greats that .

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Faz, back to the original point I was making. It is quite embarrassing when you criticize someone for having double standards when you yourself have admitted to having double standards.

Seems a lot like "do as I say, not as I do"...


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But it is ok to call our current star player a dirty vile cheat?


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Originally Posted By: Prolific Borini
Faz, back to the original point I was making. It is quite embarrassing when you criticize someone for having double standards when you yourself have admitted to having double standards.
ok marko you just keep calling liverpool legends dirty vile cheats .

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
oh its only souness the greatest captain one of the true greats who is a cheat ? , look shaggy ray kennedy knocked mike lyons out , terry mc got sent off for it along with everton's gary stanley , jimmy case, tommy smith all knocked players out many times , clem used to knocked players heads off at corners , bruce would just take players out , but all winners all greats the liverpool way take no sh1t from anyone , but suppose its doesnt mean anything no more that winners ,legends, greats .


We were discussing one incident involving Souness, no one else

But it's hard to have a sensible debate with someone who thinks that having double standards is perfectly acceptable.
As I said it was an unbelievable post, an amazing thing to admit.
only discuss what you choose now ?


I was only discussing the topic of our debate. You contribution to that debate was to admit that you apply double standards and that you think that is fine.

If you cannot see the absurdity of that viewpoint then I really dont know what to say to you.

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Originally Posted By: Prolific Borini
But it is ok to call our current star player a dirty vile cheat?
have i called him that ? but when he has won 3 european cups 6 league titles and 4 league cups and was appointed captain by bob paisley to turn the team around when the team was on the slide , than he can be put in the same status but until then .......

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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
oh its only souness the greatest captain one of the true greats who is a cheat ? , look shaggy ray kennedy knocked mike lyons out , terry mc got sent off for it along with everton's gary stanley , jimmy case, tommy smith all knocked players out many times , clem used to knocked players heads off at corners , bruce would just take players out , but all winners all greats the liverpool way take no sh1t from anyone , but suppose its doesnt mean anything no more that winners ,legends, greats .


We were discussing one incident involving Souness, no one else

But it's hard to have a sensible debate with someone who thinks that having double standards is perfectly acceptable.
As I said it was an unbelievable post, an amazing thing to admit.
only discuss what you choose now ?


I was only discussing the topic of our debate. You contribution to that debate was to admit that you apply double standards and that you think that is fine.

If you cannot see the absurdity of that viewpoint then I really dont know what to say to you.

ok only discuss what shaggy wants from now on koptalkers .

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Look it's obvious to me that you are a passionate fan and will defend our legends to the core, but you must understand, a lot of fans have never seen those legends play, either because they were too young, or because the games weren't so freely available back then for viewing. To them, Gerrard, Suarez, Torres, Alonso, Reina...to them those lads are the legends. These are the best LFC players of their generation, some of these players won us the CL, some the carling cup, some got us closest to the PL title in 20 odd years. When you and Mick refer to these players as vile, cheats, not world class, ordinary mercenaries it makes them feel the same way you feel when someone calls Souness a cheat.

You have to have understanding for them.

Now, for the record, I don't think Souness was a cheat, it's just how the game was played back then, but the same applies to Suarez and diving, biting etc. It is how the game is nowadays. It happens a lot, it is just that the cameras catch a lot more of it these days.

Had Suarezs bite gone unseen by cameras, it would not have been a big deal. It is part of his character, he wants to win at all costs, just like Souness did. There is no difference. Only difference is, one is crucified because he is too good for us, whilst the other is canonized because he won trophies with us.


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Can I have a go ?

Dirty vile cheats


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