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..........FSG have not failed once to back a manager with resources to spend. Oh Dear. What a silly statement. Just one name springs to mind, and I ain't even trying. Clint Dempsey !
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We all knew Reina was leaving, it was widely reported that Barcelona tried to replace Valdes with him but that failed, maybe it will happen next year so a loan deal suits all parties.
We have a suitable replacement in Mignolet, why is there an issue here? Because some people need an excuse to moan about FSG/BR/Ayre etc. even when we bring in a replacement before anyone leaves, it's apparently bad business. Silly in my opinion. Na, no excuses are required to slag off FSG, they provide plenty of opportunity on their own. For me the issue with Pepe going is that it in the end it was purely financial. Never before in my following of the club have I felt like I had to balance the books on the chairman's behalf. Looks like FSG brainwashing is affecting a lot of us. If that's true, why do we always spend so much time going on about money?! And that's not aimed at anyone in particular, we're all guilty.
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For me the issue with Pepe going is that it in the end it was purely financial. Never before in my following of the club have I felt like I had to balance the books on the chairman's behalf. Looks like FSG brainwashing is affecting a lot of us. Not at all. If Pepe hadn't lost his mojo he'd still be playing for us.If Pepe wasn't actively looking for a move to another club, aaaaaaaaaaannd lost his mojo, he'd still be playing for us. Anyone else feel like this thread is going 'round in circles??? 
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Who is suggesting are resources are limited? If we've been ridding the club of high earners, we'll have that money to spend. FSG have not failed once to back a manager with resources to spend. I think there'll be a few surprised fans come the end of this window. But as you say, we'll know if/when that day comes. Are you serious when you say that FSG have not failed once to back a manager with resources? I wonder why we ended up with one proper centre forward (may be two counting Borini) last summer, we were lucky that Suarez didn't get injured. We did let Kuyt, Bellamy, Caroll go and brought in only Borini, and we were already short of strikers compared to our opponents who usually have 4. Unless of course this is what BR wanted or was it Dempsey. Didn't KD want to bring in a striker Jan last year as we were short of strikers after Suarez ban following the Evra issue, was it backing the manager then. I am sure that you will come up with, the managers were making mistakes, but we are discussing the backing of FSG of their appointed managers here.
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KD was out the door already, I think, and they didn't know if they could trust rodgers yet. They still gave him 32 million to spend, which I would call backing. The Dempsey bit was embarrassing, but he was too old for that much money, in their eyes, and they didn't trust Rodgers enough yet. I could be wrong, but I think we'll spend a bit more in a few weeks.
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KD was out the door already, I think, and they didn't know if they could trust rodgers yet. They still gave him 32 million to spend, which I would call backing. The Dempsey bit was embarrassing, but he was too old for that much money, in their eyes, and they didn't trust Rodgers enough yet. I could be wrong, but I think we'll spend a bit more in a few weeks. As I said, there will always be good reasons, but was just giving some examples of FSG not backing the manager unlike what was stated earlier.
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Oh Dear. What a silly statement. Just one name springs to mind, and I ain't even trying.
Clint Dempsey ! I said, and I repeat... ..........FSG have not failed once to back a manager with resources to spend. He was still backed with resources... He still got to bring in Borini and Allen for a LOT of money. He was even offered Sturridge and at the time, BR turned the move down. There were communications errors once, and BR, Ayre and FSG weren't all on the same wavelength. Please don't try and make out Rodgers wouldn't have been backed, it was just that financially, the club said spending that money on Dempsey was misplaced. It hasn't happened since; just because it happened once, it won't happen all the time. It is obvious that since the committee has been introduced, the clubs transfer dealings have been good to great. If you net spent over £75m over two summers (Dalglish 1st full year and Rodgers' first year) and try and bemoan financial support, there is something seriously wrong with you. For me the issue with Pepe going is that it in the end it was purely financial. Never before in my following of the club have I felt like I had to balance the books on the chairman's behalf. Looks like FSG brainwashing is affecting a lot of us. If the deal was purely financial, we wouldn't have signed a replacement. We'd have wiped off his £110k wages and left Jones as first choice. Come on. There is manipulating information. AND THERE IS MANIPULATING INFORMATION. You can hold on to the memories of when Reina was great, but realise he still never reached close to that level at any point this season. Rodgers said neither Reina nor the club could justify his wages to be on the bench. Rodgers has chosen Mignolet as first choice then. If Reina was so great, we wouldn't have made the move. Simple. Are you serious when you say that FSG have not failed once to back a manager with resources? I wonder why we ended up with one proper centre forward (may be two counting Borini) last summer, we were lucky that Suarez didn't get injured. We did let Kuyt, Bellamy, Caroll go and brought in only Borini, and we were already short of strikers compared to our opponents who usually have 4. Unless of course this is what BR wanted or was it Dempsey. Didn't KD want to bring in a striker Jan last year as we were short of strikers after Suarez ban following the Evra issue, was it backing the manager then. I am sure that you will come up with, the managers were making mistakes, but we are discussing the backing of FSG of their appointed managers here. YES I AM. They have backed every manager with a lot of money. Lots and lots of money considering we weren't in Europe. £75m NET SPEND. That is crazy. Everyone on here bemoaning them either doesn't realise the predicament they came into, or doesn't understand that the club was running at seriously high unsustainable levels. We were less than 5% away from the 70% threshold for wage capacity that was beginning to be intergrated through FFP. They had more than 2 handfuls of over-paid players. They had to pay many of these off (like £3m to Cole) to even get rid of them. Add to that, that the club has been trying to fund the stadium expansion from the inside, because FSG haven't the money to spend from investors to pay for it off the clubs books. You either choose to accept reality, which is that they have backed managers for every feasible transfer (bar Dempsey) and with a lot of money regardless of then, considering our current position in the league, or you're choosing to play a delusional game of lets blame those at the top...
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Backed yourself up well there kidda 
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