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Liverpool Legend
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I tried to make some concrete predictions before. I had us down for 6th with a chance of 4th, but need 2 more first-teamers to be realistic contenders. And probably more if our best player leaves.
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1st Team Squad
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Reina hasn't been sold. And he is as likely to impress in Napoli as not. His value could reduce because of the loan deal. We may end up having to pay his last 2 years....
If I mention all of FSGs deals, they have a record of selling players over the age of 28, and those squad players that have not impressed. Suarez is neither. Reina is both! Torres is the only exception to the rule.
Itandje - 28, squad player and infamous for his doings at the Hillsbrough Memorial
Babel - squad player who unimpressed
Torres - was a first-teamer struggling for form. Given his subsequent form, selling wasn't the worst thing to do in retrospect, only the timing and replacement issue but the only exception to the rule
Konchesky - 30, squad player
Jovanovic - 30, squad player
El Zhar - squad player
Kyrgiakos - 32, squad player
Insua - squad player
Poulsen - 31 squad player
N'Gog - squad player
Degen - 28, squad player
Meireles - 28
Aurelio - 32, squad player
Kuyt - 31
Maxi - 31, squad player
Aquilani - 28, squad player
Bellamy - 33, squad player
Charlie Adam - squad player
Joe Cole - 31, squad player
Nuri Sahin - squad player
Doni - 33, squad player
Jamie Carragher - 35, retiring
Andy Carroll - squad player
Jonjo Shelvey - squad player
That is every player who played for the first-team that has left under FSG.
And what you say about Suarez's reasons are just speculation. In my eyes, he wants to play in the Champions League now, and not risk missing out on it in his career. It could be that he doesn't think FSG will take us there, but that is more speculative than reasoned.
And for the record, there is only one player who would improve us right now in my eyes. Torres as the lone striker with Suarez on the wing, Fernando replacing Downing. Meireles, Kuyt, Maxi are all not as good right now as they were before. It was an exception to the rule because he was the only one top player that commanded a huge fee and who was willing to go (Gerrard had probably already made up his mind to retire at Lfc), the next one we have in the same situation is Suarez who sees no great future at LFC (rumours are that he is available for 55m). If we continue our path, I will not be surprised if Coutinho wants to leave at the end of next weason. One fact remains, under FSG we have finished 6th, 8th and 7th, that's not progress. Our odds to finish above 6th with our squad are not super great according to me (what do you think?), but, the window is not closed, FSG could surprise me. Well said vish.... Nail on the head...
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What I can say from the initial report. I will just link it below, is that Agger, Reina, Gerrard, Cole and Henderson were all seen as red values - could be sold. It is some equation involving age, quality and fitness risk. http://tomkinstimes.com/2011/06/fair-play-for-fenway/ If I understand this report properly, we have moderate success, but made some absolutely monumental errors. - It seems that Jones, Kyrgiakos, Konchesky, Aurelio, Poulsen, Jovanovic and Maxi were high priority to get rid of. We got rid of all of these players apart from Jones who we gave a new contract to. All of these should have gone in year 1 of the project. Next on the list is Cole, Carragher and Kuyt, who should have been sold/released this season. Whilst running Gerrard's contract down, instead we have given Gerrard a new contract and 2 of these players left before their time. Based on this, our most valuable assets are/were Reina, Skrtel, Johnson, Lucas, Henderson, Suarez and Carroll. 1 of these has gone and 3/4 of these are being pushed out the door as we speak. It's beyond baffling and makes no sense. According to that Spearing, Shelvey, Insua, Wilson, Meireles, should all still be here and I agree.
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Under 23 Player
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Insua - squad player - Could have been cover for Enrique
N'Gog - squad player - Badly needed backup firepower
Meireles - 28 - Euro quality player badly needed to stabilise our midfield
Kuyt - 31 - Right Wing has been a problematic area, we lacked players with any fight last season
Maxi - 31, squad player - See above, also missed his crucial goals in the box
Charlie Adam - squad player - Assist machine
Andy Carroll - squad player - Young, Full International, severely lack his height advantage on set pieces
Jonjo Shelvey - squad player - Young Future International on low wages
Should have kept all of the above and has proven our downfall over the last couple of seasons, sometimes it's best to stick with what you have, as other teams have shown over the years like Man Utd.
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Why? None of them are playing for top teams. If they're not good enough for them, how can they be good enough to catch them?!
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Why? None of them are playing for top teams. If they're not good enough for them, how can they be good enough to catch them?! Going by what you're saying, why did we sign Borini, Allen and Mignolet then.
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I would regard Istanbul as a success... you must be one of the rare deluded ones - jeeeeezzz, what a loser 
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Were going to finish 6th or 7th this season, we'll either lose/keep Suarez but this wont make any difference to where we finish as with him we still need 2 top quality players to even consider challenging for 4th. Aspas, Alberto, Borini, Allen, Assaidi, Sturridge, Coutinho, Toure and Mignolet brought in by Rodgers now so far, and i have to say personally before they signed the only ones i would have wanted was Coutinho and maybe Sturridge. The rest have to suprise us.
No,this is not a good town for psychedelic drugs.Reality itself is too twisted.
We can't stop here, this is bat country!
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Cheers for the heads up - saves me wasting my Saturday afternoons for the next nine months.. You don't happen to have next weeks lottery numbers by any chance, do you? 
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Cheers for the heads up - saves me wasting my Saturday afternoons for the next nine months.. You don't happen to have next weeks lottery numbers by any chance, do you? Haha, am just stating the cynical facts.
No,this is not a good town for psychedelic drugs.Reality itself is too twisted.
We can't stop here, this is bat country!
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