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I agree lets not be too pessimistic

I am hoping we unveil messi before August


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Originally Posted By: Mick Eire
yes we do see things differently, I honestly think we are nearer to the Six Clubs below us rather than the top Five above us, when you say there is a chance I agree to a certain extent in that Crystal Palace can also win the Premier League because its not impossible. When we talk about Cities and importance believe it or not there is a global city index on Wikipedia which highlights Cities importance rankings, it's worth checking out, Liverpool has had major money and awards bestowed on it yes but if you look they are still behind your. Birmingham and Manchester in order of importance, check it out if you don't believe me.


1. But why do you think that? The whole point of this forum is for discussion. The only valid points I have heard from other people about us not being a top club are a)not enough money to compete (which I said we have not yet seen the full extent of our spending yet; never minding the fact we spent an awful lot of money under KD) and b) we finished 1 place above 8th (which again, I say that after such a bad start, we still managed to finish 12 points off 4th place)... I just wonder what makes you think that way, because a year ago we reached 2 cup finals, and this year we've built a strong group playing good football?! We are now sure of how we want to play, and have a young progressive manager pushing hard to improve our goal-scoring abilities. Everything we have been crying out for for years, and everybody is being glum and pessimistic about our chances! Why?

2. If what you just said was all true, and you would choose the place highest on your list, why did Beckham go to Los Angeles if he'd live better in New York? I could ask everyone in the world who the best players in the world were, and we'd get an overall look, but ultimately, just because 40% say Gerrard still is, doesn't mean that he is. Just because Gerrard got loads of assists, doesn't make him a great player, because 90% of them could have been short 2yd passes. There are so many anomalies, ultimately it is very difficult to get a large picture on the matter. If Liverpool is so close to Manchester, as has been said by others, they can choose to live there.

Ultimately, the only difference this season is Europe. Lack of European football is the key difference, and Henrikh Mkhitaryan said as much himself. Liverpool have their history and are not at the same level as Dortmund competing for honours. It is true. It doesn't make us a mid-table club. We are still a top club, we have just fallen from top 4 probables, to top 4 possibles.

Soaps have less melodrama than there seems to be on here. It is tiring.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
We are behind manchester and Birmingham economically but I don't think that influences players. We live in the same commuter belt as manchester anyway so there is nothing to stop them living in manchester or the Cheshire belt should they so wish. Graeme souness lived in knutsford when manager and so did crouch
I think where you live does play a part in players decisions to join, not as much as firstly money, then chances of success but definately after that, your right about Souness living in Knutsford but what I will say is remember Champagne Charlie Nicholas...

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Originally Posted By: Mick Eire
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
We are behind manchester and Birmingham economically but I don't think that influences players. We live in the same commuter belt as manchester anyway so there is nothing to stop them living in manchester or the Cheshire belt should they so wish. Graeme souness lived in knutsford when manager and so did crouch
I think where you live does play a part in players decisions to join, not as much as firstly money, then chances of success but definately after that, your right about Souness living in Knutsford but what I will say is remember Champagne Charlie Nicholas...


What's your point, LFC is sh1t, Liverpool city is crap, LFC players are crap? Then what? Nobody is forcing you to support the club, are you just baiting or what?

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Originally Posted By: vish LFC
Originally Posted By: Mick Eire
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
We are behind manchester and Birmingham economically but I don't think that influences players. We live in the same commuter belt as manchester anyway so there is nothing to stop them living in manchester or the Cheshire belt should they so wish. Graeme souness lived in knutsford when manager and so did crouch
I think where you live does play a part in players decisions to join, not as much as firstly money, then chances of success but definately after that, your right about Souness living in Knutsford but what I will say is remember Champagne Charlie Nicholas...


What's your point, LFC is sh1t, Liverpool city is crap, LFC players are crap? Then what? Nobody is forcing you to support the club, are you just baiting or what?
Your reply has been reported.

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thats ever so brave of you red4life

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Originally Posted By: Mick Eire
Originally Posted By: vish LFC
Originally Posted By: Mick Eire
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
We are behind manchester and Birmingham economically but I don't think that influences players. We live in the same commuter belt as manchester anyway so there is nothing to stop them living in manchester or the Cheshire belt should they so wish. Graeme souness lived in knutsford when manager and so did crouch
I think where you live does play a part in players decisions to join, not as much as firstly money, then chances of success but definately after that, your right about Souness living in Knutsford but what I will say is remember Champagne Charlie Nicholas...


What's your point, LFC is sh1t, Liverpool city is crap, LFC players are crap? Then what? Nobody is forcing you to support the club, are you just baiting or what?
Your reply has been reported.


For what exactly?

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I was asking myself the same question Vish...I don't see anything wrong with your post.


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You never know, the Spanish still have a soft spot for LFC tho, after all the Spaniards that have put on the Red shirt recently, not to mention Raffa, we might just convince him.

Add Xabi to to the deal to hold his hand and I'd be on cloud nine.


You do know that Higuain is not a Spaniard.


Spanish speaking national, based in Spain.... what I was getting at was the influences and the transition to England..

Besides, all those native Spanish speakers look the same laugh

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Originally Posted By: Mick Eire
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
We are behind manchester and Birmingham economically but I don't think that influences players. We live in the same commuter belt as manchester anyway so there is nothing to stop them living in manchester or the Cheshire belt should they so wish. Graeme souness lived in knutsford when manager and so did crouch
I think where you live does play a part in players decisions to join, not as much as firstly money, then chances of success but definately after that, your right about Souness living in Knutsford but what I will say is remember Champagne Charlie Nicholas...


I don't usually read your posts cool, I gave up on that many moons ago - but that post above is pretty fair in my eyes.

No matter how big Sunderland or Hull get, they'll never attract the top, top players.

Similarly, Tottenham have benefited through the years at the other end of the spectrum - god knows they were shitt there for years on end, always got the players though.

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