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I doubt West Brom would have any or it would be a minimum, while Everton would have some, especially those who followed the English league when Everton was winning trophies. Then you also have some fans who lived briefly in UK and were supporting the club in their area. Being one of the global fans, usually you start supporting a club which is winning when you have just started to watch football, ie, when you are still a kid, sometimes your father and uncle also push you towards the team they were supporting. To re-generate new global fans, in general though, the team should be competing and winning the big trophies regularly, LFC is still feeding on past glories but the fan base is getting older and older.

Older and wiser

And more cynical

why does everyone keep saying that we are not succesful. Since the prem league started we won lots of trophies. 11 in my count + several other finals. The profile of the club is relatively high. We are far more succesful than people realise

Not recently though.

Last 5 are Carling Cup 2012, FA Cup 2006, Community Shield 2006, CL 2005 and UEFA Super Cup 2005.

We have been fading vastly over the last 7 years!

Yes we are more successful than some people think and the final against ac milan (the first one) won't have done any harm to attracting more supporters.

Vish does have a point though. Kids are glory hunters and unless some relative pushes them in a certain direction they end up supporting whoever is winning at the time.

I moved to the midlands in 1990 from Cyprus and at the time I wasn't particularly interested in foreign (to me) football. Before I left, some football maniac friends of mine suggested I support Liverpool since they were champions at the time. So whenever someone asked me who I supported, I used to say Liverpool. Didn't mean anything to start with but as I got more into watching football my interest (and I daresay love) for LFC grew to the point where a bad result is enough to [oops] up my day. Alongside that I seem to have developed a hatred for ManU... I'm not sure what that's all about.

While I was in good ol' blighty working on my brummy accent, united did their thing and when I returned to Cyprus I was horrified to find I had a manc nephew. I tried to talk some sense into the little git but since we haven't won a championship since I started supporting Liverpool, I didn't have much ammunition. I did make him cry a couple of seasons ago when we crushed them 4-1 at old trafford but still...

I only hope we get our act together pronto cause I don't want my godson to grow up to be a manc as well. His dad claims to be a manu fan but he's more into barcelona so I think I can put the little guy on the right track...

its simple why people say we are not successful, all big clubs deal in is champions leagues and domestic leagues, winning F.A.Cups, League Cups and Europa leagues don't even register on the radar. This shows us that Liverpool have won one major trophy in 23 years in Istanbul, or roughly one champions league in just on 30 years and no leagues in nearly 25 years, hardly a record of a so called big Club now is it.

I don't agree with you, on top of winning some trophies we were competing among the best going to Champions league final stages playing against the big clubs. It has really gone bad in the last few seasons and the drama is, nobody is convinced that we are getting out of the woods, yes some may be hopeful, but don't think anybody woukd put their own money on us winning the league in the next 5 years, not ever the big optimists, unless things change dramatically.

The only way we will win the title is if we get new owners who are willing to risk substancial sums on rebuilding the club. Otherwise we are just managing decline

I don't agree with you, on top of winning some trophies we were competing among the best going to Champions league final stages playing against the big clubs. It has really gone bad in the last few seasons and the drama is, nobody is convinced that we are getting out of the woods, yes some may be hopeful, but don't think anybody woukd put their own money on us winning the league in the next 5 years, not ever the big optimists, unless things change dramatically. [/quote]








but that's just it again, so called big clubs don't deal in finishing second, finishing runners up or talking about competing at the top level, they just deal in what they win, to be honest statements like u have just made about you think we should see competing and finishing second shows to me we are no longer a big Club, could just see United, Chelsea and City patting themselves on the back for finishing runners up, even Arsenal got slaughtered for celebrating finishing fourth last season.