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Originally Posted By: jjmelling
Without pressure? I am pretty sure Brendan told the players that 4th was achieveable. After falling further behind at first, many of the players then stepped up. Don't think it was all down to little/no pressure, because much of the pressure was enforced internally.
am afraid 4th place was never on this season just like any other season, once the Club was beaten by Oldham due to Rodgers incompetence in fielding a weak team the season was virtualy over, there might of been a bit of personal pride for Gerrard and Carragher to try and finish above Everton but for the rest the season was effectively over and there was no pressure on them for the remaining games, even Downing got his finger out a bit which proves it and he is certainly a player who cant cope with any sort of pressure.

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I just don't agree NoMark One. The whole point of Rodgers making the statement about 4th, was to recognise who could step up and fight. Sure, we fell away, and I remember conversations on here of people questioning why he spoke about 4th, because our form had dipped, but the goal was distinguishing who was worthy of staying, and who looked unable to cope with pressure from within the club. But its all about pressing for better. For too long, we've failed to put pressure on ourselves to improve, looked good then fell away. For the first time, Rodgers played the game with the press in order to help justify wanting to move on some players to the owners, and show where we needed players. It is plain to see that that is why he did it. He even said so in an interview. That pushing for better internally was much more important than looking at others. The club has to put pressure on itself to improve. That it was important to highlight the areas we needed to improve. Sometimes people's words actually should be listened and processed as truthful.

And just to clarify.

Downing was better for more than just 10 games at the end of the season.

Rodgers played a team that included Skrtel, Allen, Henderson, Sterling, Suarez, Sturridge and Borini. Not THAT weak.

"4th was never on this season just like any other season" pretty sure we've finished higher than 5th before. Not loving the pessimistic outlook if you never think 4th has never been possible in our history. Maybe don't look at our history before Hodgson was hired.

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I think it's too early to be making predictions because we don't know who we will get in and who the opposition will get in. Once the transfer window closes and the recruiting has been done, it will be bar easier to make a prediction.

That said though, taking into account the current link to certain players for certain clubs, I think we can finish top 4. Reason for that are: I don't think Moyes will get the best of the United team like Ferguson did, Pelligrini needs to adjust to the Premier League, Tottenham have European Football to consider as well, Arsenal may surprise, Chelsea will most likely win the league. Liverpool Football Club only has the Prem and domestic cup games to think about and with a stronger deeper squad I believe we can get into the top 4.

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Originally Posted By: redordead13
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5th or 6th I would think but would prefer to wait for the first 5 games to give a prediction.

Last edited by vish LFC; 21/06/13 09:37 AM.
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Originally Posted By: Solar
ok how about this, we finish 4th and utd finish 5th. or what if we didn't get that 4th place and still finished above utd. would you guys be happy with being above them, but no champions league?


Nah, I couldn't care less where Utd finish. In theory, we could finish above them and both teams get relegated. That would give me no enjoyment at all.

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Originally Posted By: Carheex
Originally Posted By: Solar
ok how about this, we finish 4th and utd finish 5th. or what if we didn't get that 4th place and still finished above utd. would you guys be happy with being above them, but no champions league?


Nah, I couldn't care less where Utd finish. In theory, we could finish above them and both teams get relegated. That would give me no enjoyment at all.


I would love that to happen


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I wouldn't. We'd get promoted to the EPL as runners up the following year - so we wouldn't even be able to say that we won the Championship!!

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Originally Posted By: Carheex
I wouldn't. We'd get promoted to the EPL as runners up the following year - so we wouldn't even be able to say that we won the Championship!!


We could still stay another year in the championship to win it.

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