KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Why couldn't we finish 4th?

Simple thread. I am of the firm belief a good transfer window can put us in a position to challenge for 4th, irrespective of what our competitors do. So many people on here have basically just said it is not possible, and given no topic of discussion on the matter other than money. Every team is made of big and moderate money signings... So I don't get the argument there. Why can't we?

Well we can just as we can win the title.

This time last year there was much talk of finishing 4th and the season before some were talking about us winning the title

And we know how that ended up.

It's probabilities and its not easy to visualise us finishing ahead of utd city chesea aresnal

Bearing in mind that the richest clubs ALWAYS win the league, why are you writing off 'money' as being a decisive factor? Of course, we 'can' win the league, but so 'can' fulham or stoke.

Man Utd haven't spent much money on players in a fair few years.

Chelsea haven't won it recently despite a huge outlay on players.

Man City failed to reclaim the title.

Arsenal spent fairly big and barely made progress.

Spurs spent less, and closed the gap on them.

Everton spent less than us, and finished above us.


Money isn't the driver here. Talent is. The only thing money does, which is arguably the only thing I have ever agreed with NoMark One about, is that spending big money generally reduces the risks of signing a player. The more valuable players, are those good enough they can play in any team. If we sign players that suit BR's way, and they improve on what we already have, then there is nothing to suggest we can't improve to that level. I never said we were winning the league, and as I say, City and Chelsea both spent more unwisely last season, than Utd did wisely.

The players linked are generally young improvements on our current young players, or players just looking at the stage before they peak. Signing them before they make the name for themselves in the big leagues. Somebody had to sign Cavani before he impressed so much.

yes but money buys the best talent...

Utd have spent £65m + since jan 12
Chelsea have spent £100m since jan 12
City have spent £70m since Jan 12
Arsenal have spent £48m
Tottenham have spent £74m
Liverpool have spent £44m


Whilst it's not 100% certain, I'd be prepared to bet good money that the lowest spender of the above 6 teams finished the lowest. And I'd bet again that by the end of this season, the biggest spender over the last few years will be lifting the premier league trophy or coming runner-up at least.

+1.

I cannot comprehend how naive so many of our fans are. If you pay peanuts you get monkeys. If the top 4 wanted Aspas they would have got him. My worry is, why didnt they want him?

Two simple reasons why we can't finish 4th firstly we are no longer a big enough club and secondly we don't have the sufficent funds, the reason we can't finish 4th is exactly the same reasons Everton, Stoke, West Brom and Fulham can't either, if people are honest with themselves they will accept the only reason we get mentioned in the same breath as 4th is because of a famous old name and past expectation levels, that's all nothin more nothin less and it's not a valid reason in my book.

The reason we are no longer in fourth place is the emergence of city and spurs into the placings. In rafas time and houillier we did not have that extra competition.

Unless we get new owners this status is it for many years

lack of money is no excuse. We've spent alot more than Spurs, Arsenal, man utd and Everton last couple of years. In fact if you look at transfer fee's since the premier league began only Chelsea and Man City have spent more.

Its not how much you spend its how you spend it. When you spend 35 million on Andy Carroll, 20 million on Stuart Downing, 16 Million on Henderson and 15 Million on Joe Allen its pretty obvious your not going to do that well.