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still baffles me why people still mention 4th place as we have'nt a hope in hells chance, suppose its all about opinions tho.

It all depends on how you rank us against the competition competing for places above us. Based on previous records, Spurs will be reliant on Bale (who may leave) and Arsenal will under-perform, meaning if we don't fall victim to having a weaker squad depth, we have as much a chance as they will.

I think people are under the mad illusion that we are going to be the only team to strenghthen this summer and all the Clubs above will stand still. I will be very honest here, I have not heard of any of those players we have bought or been linked with except Toure and the Sunderland goalie, not even that 20 million pound player who plays for that ruskie team, so for me there gambles straight away especialy coming into a new league.
I was just looking at the odds on winning the Premier league for next season and I find it quite baffling, we are quoted at 25/1 yet the next team is Everton at 250/1 how can this be true given Everton are better than us at present and both of us have probably a similar chance of winning it, there is nothing between the two teams really. I did read that when all these bookmakers work out any odds on Liverpool they apply a different method, because we have so many fans and they all bet on us the bookmakers cant afford to take a hit if we ever won something so they delibrately keep the odds on us low in case it ever happend, this would certainly explain such ludicrous odds of 25/1, lets be honest 1000/1 would be generous given how far away we are.

For a start, the 20m player doesn't play for a russian team but I wouldn't expect you to know the difference and where did anyone say we will get top 4?

I am not going to question the betting. We are over-exaggerated because of quantity of betting. I'd insist not to that degree. Everton have very limited spending, and a very small squad in comparison to us, therefore their chances are slimmer. Having more money makes you perceived as better, therefore likelier but it doesn't mean a thing on the pitch, other than the mentality of the players coming to play you. I'd say we are less feared than we have been, and therefore people come thinking they can win, rather than playing safe. That doesn't make us weaker than the more feared Spurs and Arsenal.

They will spend, and likely big. I am not disagreeing with that. If Arsenal don't improve their first XI, its unlikely to make a difference in the grand scheme of things because they have a strong squad. If Spurs don't invest in a mix of the two (first XI and depth in parts) they shouldn't be feared. Its less about bravado suggestions. Why think that if we don't spend very well, we can't compete with the likes of them? Even if they spend money... I don't get the defeatist attitude.

Looking at the fixtures, I am sure we'll know where we are in terms of progress after the first 5 games, that's the good news for me. Last season we could be expected to start badly (as we did), but not the coming one. 10 pts as a minimum, else it will be a loooong season.

What a tosser

Wow you did dig it up! What a tosser!

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