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Both never helped us win the League so none as good as Rushie or even Aldo in the legend stakes.

Gerrard never helped us to win the league - does that make him worse than Sammy Lee? John Barnes never helped us to win a european cup - does that make him worse thank harry kewell?

all Sammy Lee did was appear and win those honours, he never had a direct effect on the outcome like Souness, Dalglish, Hansen and Rush so will never be put above them just like Gerrard will never be regarded better or more of a legend than Souness, Dalglish, Emlyn, Rush, Ray Kennedy, Case or Terry Mac it's just impossible as all those players actualy did it whereas Gerrard could of, massive difference.

Is it Gerrards fault that he hasn't been surrounded by players that were as gifted as the ones Dalglish, Rush, Evans etc were? I don't think so!

By the way, I'd have Suarez over Torres but not by much!

I think you're wrong there. Those of the Istanbul generation will always see Gerrard as a 'legend' or whatever. You're right in that he never won the league etc but a lot of fans have never seen Liverpool win the league and so will never regard the likes of Souness, Dalglish, Emlyn, Rush, Ray Kennedy, Case or Terry Mac as better simply because they never saw them play. Obviously this means it's a matter of age and opinion.

If we look purely at the football side, I would definately pick Luis Suarez. The guy is a monster of a player, one of a kind IMO, just like Ronaldo and Messi, each great in their own special way.

If I compare the best season of both, I would agree that Suarez is better than Torres because he can influence a game on his own more than what Torres could, even in his best season (better not compare the current Suarez and Torres)

Michael Owen in his peak wasnt bad either, he beat Arsenal on his own.

Out of those two id have to say Suarez as I have a short memory and cant quite remember just how good Torres was if im honest.

yes it certainly was Gerrards fault that he was surrounded by poor to mediocre players because he was one of the lucky players who was good enough to choose the path of his own career, most players have to just move to clubs that agree fees between each other while the very best can pick whoever they want to play for. Steven Gerrard picked playing alongside rubbish instead of a big club for the simple reason he wanted to play amongst them, he had nobody to blame but himself or his advisors because his career went t1ts up...