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After all the recent events it just got me thinking...did we as a club really support Luis Suarez? Did we really? Or did the only man who did support him truly, get axed and hounded out by spectators and fans alike for truly supporting Luis Suarez?

Why was no appeal launched after the Evra ruling? Did FSG decide that Suarez should bite the bullet rather than having the clubs name draged through the mud, even though he might be innocent? Is this what he is reffering to perhaps?

Why was no appeal made when he recieve d a 10 match ban for the same offence that other players recieved a 3 match ban for?

It does get me wondering...so much has been made of this supposed support, but have we really supported him?

Luis Suarez has only imself to blame for the biting incident, and there are no excuses, however the punishment does seem a bit heavy handed and bias.

When it comes to Evra though, if he is telling the truth and he said Negrito, which isn't a racist term in his country, and he was banned on a probability, would you not feel betrayed if your club didnt appeal the ban, suggested you dont appeal it, even though you were innocent?

just a thought...

Having said all that, if he wants to leave, he is welcome to, as long as he makes sure he leaves the money on the table...


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The player must always understand the clubs best interests.

Would it have been a good idea to drag the whole biting incident and racism case any longer through court based appeals? NO

Even if the original judgement was overturned the negative taste which the incident provoked would have always remained.

Plus the concern that Suarez is a liability like something always seems to occur with the lad.

He is basically the complete polar opposite to brand beckham. He knows it as well. He uses the media and miss quotes to his advantage.

Did we do enough to support him as a club. YES.

Did we as fans do enough to support him. YES.

Did the media hand him out to dry? YES and rightly so.

Besides which. The spanish press are far worse. He thinks they'll give him an easy ride? BS! He wants to play in the CL and doesnt think he can achieve that goal with LFC simple as.

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Originally Posted By: JayGB1982
The player must always understand the clubs best interests.

Would it have been a good idea to drag the whole biting incident and racism case any longer through court based appeals? NO

Even if the original judgement was overturned the negative taste which the incident provoked would have always remained.

Plus the concern that Suarez is a liability like something always seems to occur with the lad.

He is basically the complete polar opposite to brand beckham. He knows it as well. He uses the media and miss quotes to his advantage.

Did we do enough to support him as a club. YES.

Did we as fans do enough to support him. YES.

Did the media hand him out to dry? YES and rightly so.

Besides which. The spanish press are far worse. He thinks they'll give him an easy ride? BS! He wants to play in the CL and doesnt think he can achieve that goal with LFC simple as.


Exactly.


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We should have appealed that racism ban and attacked the FA with everything we had, if, and I say IF, he was innocent.

The club is bigger than any one player, with a reason though, bevause of the values that it stands for, the ethics and beliefs. If for the club stops upholding those values and beliefs though, and does so seeking only profit, then the club in my eyes is no longer what it used to be.

Liverpool football club especially, is a club which has fought so hard for JUSTICE and the TRUTH, and then, in my eyes at least, let someone else carry an unjust punishment purely to advance its own position.

Not so long we were calling for justice and truth at all costs, at any expense, yet when the burden wasn't on our shoulders, we let one of our own carry that weight on his own, and fired the only man who truly stood up for him.

So I ask again, did we really support Luis the way we should have, as a club?


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its got nothing to do with any of that. its simply not a factor in him wanting to move. suarez doesnt give a shiite what people think of him, thats why he courts controversy. he got his platform at lfc and he made the most of it, we in turn didnt and thats why we are going to lose him.

like i said in another thread, if we finished 4th or the owners showed real ambition with their spending and managerial appointments this wouldnt be happening.

but for the record, i think the club id very little wrong with regards handling his situations. he was biting people for christ sake.


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Originally Posted By: JayGB1982
The player must always understand the clubs best interests.

Would it have been a good idea to drag the whole biting incident and racism case any longer through court based appeals? NO

Even if the original judgement was overturned the negative taste which the incident provoked would have always remained.

Plus the concern that Suarez is a liability like something always seems to occur with the lad.

He is basically the complete polar opposite to brand beckham. He knows it as well. He uses the media and miss quotes to his advantage.

Did we do enough to support him as a club. YES.

Did we as fans do enough to support him. YES.

Did the media hand him out to dry? YES and rightly so.

Besides which. The spanish press are far worse. He thinks they'll give him an easy ride? BS! He wants to play in the CL and doesnt think he can achieve that goal with LFC simple as.

100% agree


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Originally Posted By: flames
its got nothing to do with any of that. its simply not a factor in him wanting to move. suarez doesnt give a shiite what people think of him, thats why he courts controversy. he got his platform at lfc and he made the most of it, we in turn didnt and thats why we are going to lose him.

like i said in another thread, if we finished 4th or the owners showed real ambition with their spending and managerial appointments this wouldnt be happening.

but for the record, i think the club id very little wrong with regards handling his situations. he was biting people for christ sake.


I tend to agree with you, however, put the biting aside, and lets concentrate on the racism incident.

Did we do everything we could have as a club and I repeat the main question again? After Suarez was handed his ban for RACISM, did Liverpool football club stand up for JUSTICE and TRUTH or did we let one of our own carry the burden without any proof? That's basically what interests me.

I personally dont want him to go, but if he wants to go and these rumours are true, then he must go.

But put aside what he did, DID WE AS A CLUB STAND UP FOR HIM, FOR JUSTICE, FOR THE TRUTH? To me these are core values of LFC and I must say, i don' think we did.


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well look, as with all battles first of all, you pick the ones you can win. second of all, we are not Legal Aid, we are a football club and we needed to get on with what we do so at some point it was time to let it go and get on with business.


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Comon lads do we really care? sleep Let him go. Don't fixate on him like some whiny b!tch who is too sad to move on after being dumped. We're better than that.

Last edited by Hendominator; 31/05/13 08:43 PM.

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Originally Posted By: flames
well look, as with all battles first of all, you pick the ones you can win. second of all, we are not Legal Aid, we are a football club and we needed to get on with what we do so at some point it was time to let it go and get on with business.


Was it though? What if the club said that about the 96? To me personally, maybe i am too emotional or idealistic, LFC embodied the fight for justice and the truth amidst adversity. Lately it seems that has disappeared, whether that's FSG or modern football I dont know, but I do feel we let him and ourselves down on that occassion.

After the biting, I was almost positive he was gone 100% but i chose to believe what i was hearing from people who aare supposedly ITK...

I still dont know whether he will stay or go, and i wont label him a traitor either way, but for no player and no one person to be bigger than the club, that has to include the owners, management and the FA itself. No one is bigger than the club and the VALUES that it stands for.


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