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carroll scored 7 goals in a team that suits his style , liverpool scored loads of goals this season without him had a plus 20 odd goal difference , so i honestly dont see what difference carroll would have made , sadly a bad waste of big money and as soon as he is sold the better in my opinion . Remeber thos 0-0 draws and 1-1 draws where we really struggled to unlock those stubborn defences once they parked the bus...That's where a route 2 via Carroll would have helped. didnt work when dalglish was in charge why would it have suddenly worked last season .
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Because there was different players putting the ball into the box!
Why did we start scoring more goals this season and not hit the woodwork as much as we did last season?
Things change from year to year!
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Even if BR wanted to keep him, I doubt Carroll will be happy with just being used as plan-b, maybe 5 starts per season (Stoke, Everton etc.). It's the season before a world cup, he will want to be playing every week, and we 100% will not be able to offer him that.
Thanks for the effort Andy, but it will be best for all parties if he is sold.
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totally agree harleybrown
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totally agree harleybrown We can say whatever we want, but, BR doesn't want him, he preferred to have nobody last season than AC who was dispatched on loan (so not a huge positive impact on the finances of the club). From what I have seen AC is better than Borini (both have been injured) having more impact on the game, but AC is more a physical player than mobile, so doesn't fit BR's system.
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Agree more so in terms of Carroll wanting more game than he will ever get with BR so him leaving will be better for himself with the world cup coming up and LFC having him off the books. win win situation!
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Andy Carroll has done 'okay' not brilliantly, at a club that suits his style. Let's all remember who's style he's playing, allerdyce's. Carroll fails miserably when it's good passing moves, and our 'long balls' are normally cross field balls or diagonals for pace to run on to, not lump it up and hope someone controls it. Does not suit Carroll. Carroll was a terrible terrible choice by Kenny that was never gonna work out. He will do very well at west ham and will be an England regular, but lets hope he doesnt stay in our team. Bad fit.
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Andy Carroll has done 'okay' not brilliantly, at a club that suits his style. Let's all remember who's style he's playing, allerdyce's. Carroll fails miserably when it's good passing moves, and our 'long balls' are normally cross field balls or diagonals for pace to run on to, not lump it up and hope someone controls it. Does not suit Carroll. Carroll was a terrible terrible choice by Kenny that was never gonna work out. He will do very well at west ham and will be an England regular, but lets hope he doesnt stay in our team. Bad fit. Could work depending on the system, if he can be good for England as you say, don't understand why you think he cannot be successful at LFC, just depends on the system the manager wants to play, but, agree that BR doesn't think AC can play for him.
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If we adapt our game to suit andy Carroll we won't be a team that scores 70 plus goals a season. So it's a waste of time keeping him. The reason we couldn't score many last season was because we tried to fit andy into the side.
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I agree with Growler and KP. Never given a chance. Told he was surplus to requirements as soon as Rodgers came in. But that does not make him a bad player.
Really unfortunate with injuries whilst out on loan. Would arguably have been in the 15-20 goals bracket without the injuries and now he is injured again. Similar to when we bought him. Injury free last season with 15-20 goals we could have been looking at £20m now.
So whilst I would love to see him in a red shirt again realistically there comes a time to sell. The mistake of spending that much on one player was made long ago and the cards dealt to us since have not been that good either.
He is injured now and one more injury say in October or November will leave his value at nearer £5m than £15m.
I also trust Rodgers with finding transfer targets after landing Sturridge and Coutinho. What he does with that £15m will be of more benefit than Carroll coming back. Perhaps also those two purchases v the purchase of Carroll may also prove to be an argument against blowing a whole wad on one player in the future.
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