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good luck to him. i rate andy carroll and think he will become a good player in the future especially for a club like west ham.

when he's in top form he's a very big handful, just look at the fa cup final last year. i'd have him back if he didn't need so many games to hit top form. but he's a confidence player and only plays his best football when he has a run of 5 games or so under his belt so not really much use to us anymore unfortunately.

£15m could be crucial for us in this transfer window as we have some very important areas of the team that need strengthening.



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Originally Posted By: Coutihnominator!
Originally Posted By: Carheex
Originally Posted By: Growler
Gutted.
Lad never given a proper chance.

Did his very best to get us back into the FA Cup final last year. Thanks Andy, and good luck.


20 minutes of effort is enough to impress you is it? The sooner this over paid unprofessional waste of space is shipped out the better - as long as we don't sign another joe allen with the £15m fee.


Car you said 12mil max earlier today right?


I did. And i am right. £12m is apparently the fee.......with another few million based on successes. The extra few millions may never need to be paid.

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Its £15 million + add ons. Likely the figure is in total the £17 million we originally wanted

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It's not anything at the moment though is it? Until it happens and there is official confirmation then the figure varies from source to source.

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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
I'm hearing it's 12 mil initial fee with add ons.... So it's more like a third of the original recouped not a half. I think we should hold out...


Something I have to agree with you.

Carroll is not a bad player by a mile and if he stays around, he'll be a damn good plan B aerial threat.

If he's not a liverpool player, I can see us bidding for him at 15m. Not a bad price for an english first team center forward!

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Originally Posted By: Carheex
Originally Posted By: Coutihnominator!
Originally Posted By: Carheex
Originally Posted By: Growler
Gutted.
Lad never given a proper chance.

Did his very best to get us back into the FA Cup final last year. Thanks Andy, and good luck.


20 minutes of effort is enough to impress you is it? The sooner this over paid unprofessional waste of space is shipped out the better - as long as we don't sign another joe allen with the £15m fee.


Car you said 12mil max earlier today right?


I did. And i am right. £12m is apparently the fee.......with another few million based on successes. The extra few millions may never need to be paid.


I also heard 15 plus add ons...guess we will only find out once it happens, if it happens...


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Originally Posted By: mightyreds
Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
I'm hearing it's 12 mil initial fee with add ons.... So it's more like a third of the original recouped not a half. I think we should hold out...


Something I have to agree with you.

Carroll is not a bad player by a mile and if he stays around, he'll be a damn good plan B aerial threat.

If he's not a liverpool player, I can see us bidding for him at 15m. Not a bad price for an english first team center forward!


But does not suit BR's system.

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Haven't most of the FSG transfers been undisclosed, and the quoted figures are just assumptions?

e.g. Henderson was quoted at £20 mill which the club laughed off, then it was assumed to be £16 million. No proof no fact.
The accounts previously got published on the website, but now you have to buy it to get access via public records.


Anyway the original figure doing the rounds was we wanted £12 mill then the news broke about agreeing £15 million + potential add ons.

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Highlights from the Liverpool Echo.

West Ham, who paid £2m to have Carroll on loan
The £15m fee is believed to have been agreed between the two clubs several weeks ago and includes various add-ons which could lead it to rise.
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From that table I did in another post I worked out that he has a book value of £19 million. If they paid £2 million that equals the £17 million purchase fee quoted at the start of the loan.

Maybe my guess at £15 million plus up to £2 million is logical, and it would be written in the books as money owed, and written off as a bad debt if we never get it.
In other words his £35 million fee is written off and we don't actually make a loss on the books. Something that balances the financial fair play.


Anyway unless he leaves its all just speculation.

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carroll scored 7 goals in a team that suits his style , liverpool scored loads of goals this season without him had a plus 20 odd goal difference , so i honestly dont see what difference carroll would have made , sadly a bad waste of big money and as soon as he is sold the better in my opinion .

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
carroll scored 7 goals in a team that suits his style , liverpool scored loads of goals this season without him had a plus 20 odd goal difference , so i honestly dont see what difference carroll would have made , sadly a bad waste of big money and as soon as he is sold the better in my opinion .


Remeber thos 0-0 draws and 1-1 draws where we really struggled to unlock those stubborn defences once they parked the bus...That's where a route 2 via Carroll would have helped.


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