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Should we give Carroll another go?
#329699 10/05/13 02:21 PM
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a few points

1. he is playing very very well
2. BR has more or less given up the tiki taka
3. we have no suarez for 6 games
4. spurs want him, they play football,still want a big man
5. carroll or borini?
6. borini cost much more than what we saved off carrolls wages and is completely useless.
7. carroll is not completely useless.

i would say yes, given that luis is out. he would have a point to prove and I think towards the end of last season he was beginning to show signs he could work for us . plus we are awful at set pieces these days. when br first came i was happy he was showing him the door but for borini? no thanks , tiki taka is gone let andy muscle us through the 6 game ban
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Originally Posted By: EMP
a few points

1. he is playing very very well
2. BR has more or less given up the tiki taka
3. we have no suarez for 6 games
4. spurs want him, they play football,still want a big man
5. carroll or borini?
6. borini cost much more than what we saved off carrolls wages and is completely useless.
7. carroll is not completely useless.

i would say yes, given that luis is out. he would have a point to prove and I think towards the end of last season he was beginning to show signs he could work for us . plus we are awful at set pieces these days. when br first came i was happy he was showing him the door but for borini? no thanks , tiki taka is gone let andy muscle us through the 6 game ban


I would play Caroll over Borini anytime, but don't think BR likes him
Re: Should we give Carroll another go?
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If they're just going to loan him out again or sell for peanuts then I'd keep hold. I don't think he's on massive wages and could be a good plan b for when we're struggling.

I do think he'll be sold though as BR will probably need the funds for other signings.
Re: Should we give Carroll another go?
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Tikal taka was never here in the first place total none sense concept. There is no tactic that will make a poor team a good one without decent players. Good tactics are important but no substitute for quality players.

As for bringing Carroll back it might be worth a try for something different when its not going well assuming we don't get good offer.

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BR tried tiki taka, thats why he bought borini and allen and got rid of AC. just went t1ts up.
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Yeah I hate that tiki taka term.
Re: Should we give Carroll another go?
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Originally Posted By: EMP
a few points

1. he is playing very very well
2. BR has more or less given up the tiki taka
3. we have no suarez for 6 games
4. spurs want him, they play football,still want a big man
5. carroll or borini?
6. borini cost much more than what we saved off carrolls wages and is completely useless.
7. carroll is not completely useless.

i would say yes, given that luis is out. he would have a point to prove and I think towards the end of last season he was beginning to show signs he could work for us . plus we are awful at set pieces these days. when br first came i was happy he was showing him the door but for borini? no thanks , tiki taka is gone let andy muscle us through the 6 game ban

If we don't get at least the 17m we are reported as agreeing with WH for his help in their staying up, or from any other quarter, I'd reluctantly consider that scenario but only for the 1st half season, since we're without Suarez.
However I have no confidence AC would ever fit into our quick passing style of play even without Tiki-taka, nor would I have confidence he'd make any more effort, or simply give a sh1t, for us than he did previously.
So for me EMP its a no, no, unless we have no realistic alternative.
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Tikal taka was never here in the first place total none sense concept. There is no tactic that will make a poor team a good one without decent players. Good tactics are important but no substitute for quality players.

As for bringing Carroll back it might be worth a try for something different when its not going well assuming we don't get good offer.


BR definitely wanted to play tiki taka, I am almost sure that this is what he had in his thesis which he sold to FSG, and this is why I was very sceptical about him, it seemed to me that replacing a few players could not get us playing like Barca EFFECTIVELY, where tiki taka is an institution starting with the youngsters, said that a number of times here at the beginning of the season. The good thing though is that BR is flexible, a quality that is important to adapt the tactics to the team.

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Re: Should we give Carroll another go?
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Tikal taka was never here in the first place total none sense concept. There is no tactic that will make a poor team a good one without decent players. Good tactics are important but no substitute for quality players.

As for bringing Carroll back it might be worth a try for something different when its not going well assuming we don't get good offer.

Yeah I agree with that. It's not generally known but when Moses came down the mountain there was an eleventh commandment written on the back of the stone tablet and it read;
"A silk purse from a sow's ear thou shalt not make"
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Tika + Taka = No Carrol
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