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What connection have FSG got ? I woud rather have unconnected owners with resources than unconnected owners without resources

agree that FSG have no connection. I would rather have David Moores than FSG. Like Everton and Bill Kenwright.

However, at least FSG seem stable and steady. I wouldn't want owners who splash the cash for a few years then something happens, they disappear and leave a wreck.

Very few investors will pour cash in without expecting to get it all back and more. So ultimately, the club needs to live within it's means. FSG seem to be stewerding that approach.

Bit of a reality check people, we are one of the top 5 clubs in the world on name value, to have people defend FSG and claim they are carrying out sensible stewardship of the club is unacceptable.

People should research the personal finances of the members of FSG to realize they can do a lot more for our club.

Yet we are treated to a PR campaign which alot of fans fall for, to persuade us we are paupers and have to live within our means (Again unacceptable).

A final example, compare how much is spent on the Red Sox compared to us.

FSG may have the better PR machine but so far they are no different to Hicks and Gillett, in terms of commitment to us.

And to note John W Henry has a personal wealth of 1.1billion dollars, also look at the FSG website

http://www.fenwaysportsgroup.com/

This will tell you all you need to know about which team is favoured by FSG.

point is, name value on it's own doesn't help. yes, it has huge potential - but only if allied with results and achievements, which as we all know we're falling short on.

Re: peoples' personal finances, why should we expect anyone to expend their personal money on us? esp after seeing how we spent £100m last time?

ok, perhaps we could do with a cash injection to give ys an initial boost, which we'd have to pay back at some point with interest. But like I said, they've have their fingers burnt and will be very wary now. and if we start paying £150k - £200k+ salaries, is that really sustainable in the long run?

City & Chelsea are just fortunate at the moment. What will happen when the Sheikh or the Oligarch walk away?

And why would the Sheik and Oligarch walk away? They love their teams, especially the Oligarch and just want the best for it.

So why buy Liverpool football club? What do they think they are going to acheve ? Do they think doing nothing will result in a fat profit ? They will be in for a surprise if they do,

We can only speculate why they bought LFC. There's a view that they got the club on the cheap; and they were perhaps looking to benefit from FFP and thet were eyeing the income from clubs possibly being able to seel their own tv rights. What they didn't factor in was the Roy fiasco and £100m being flushed down the toilet.

I think now they're perhaps taking stock and just keeping things ticking over.

I don't think I'd want Abramovich anywhere near Anfield. His source of funds is dubious, to say the least, and his hiring and firing is and embarassment. I don't want us to win like that.

The Sheikh's aren't too much better. I'd rather win nothing and compete with dignity, like our neighbours, than hit the jackpot by sleeping with the devil.

If you would be unhappy with owners like Abramovich and the Sheik, you shouldn't be too annoyed with the state of the current LFC then. I think it will stay more or less like that for ever, unless the FFP changes things.

Not sure about annoyed, but disappointed? Yes, but not necessarily with the ownership.

Look at Everton's position. They don't have the funds we have for transfers and wages, but they've competed well in the league. Our problem over the last few seasons has not been owners or funds. it's poor management of the club by those at Anfield. Roy, Kenny, Comolli, Ayre, Purslow. all of them have made huge mistakes.

Prior to that we had Rafa. He blew some of our funds too. paying wages and transfers to/for the likes of Voronin, Degen, Dossenv. But at least he took us to no 1 status is Europe, 2 CL finals, regular top 4, ruffled the feathers of Fergie, Mourinho.

Remember too, Rafa was judged against the target of challenging for the title. Those that followed him have been judged against a much lower ask and yet still failed.

So my point is, that it's not necessarily the owners that are the problem. (proven by the £100m waste). The problem is the quality of our management staff. If we get that right there's no reason why we shouldn't be at least challenging for top 4 with the current budget.