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Great article Dunk. Agree with it 100%. I'm all for people having different opinions and viewpoints, but I can't tolerate pure ignorance in the form of people criticising others for their viewpoints without being educated on the matter.


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People who complain when thatcher is criticised or booed make no sense. She identified herself as a 'conviction' politician and the main (or only) support for thatcher from people (other than raving lunatic eugenics fans or public school boys) was that she was a 'conviction' politician. No more so than the luddite Angela merkel is. You only have to read up on monetarism and fractional banking to know there is no vision involved , its greed...

I remember people saying 'well at least she stood up for what she believed in '' but so did Adolf Hitler. This argument is often spouted by those who bought their Council houses during the thatcher years. But this is not conviction its bribery rather than a social contract . Its the colour of money, and she put more of it in the pockets of certain working class groups and entrepreneurs which was commendable but the way in which this was developed was not sustainable. So closing down cities in the north and in wales while other european countries protected industries was compensated for other groups being able to buy their own council house. But no new ones were built..

This, coupled with privatisaion has the consequence of trapping people in poverty and accept lower wages, Under the guise of personal liberty (for some) and free markets. It was an abuse of the system creating debt and boom and bust and control of citizens by fractional banking. People can now ask themselves why they are in debt. It was thanks to the policies of thatcher which were more or less the same as they implemented Under the clown Reagan.
Even blair tried and failed to pass himself as a 'conviction' politician. Blair like thatcher bows to Goldman Sachs and the big banks. Conviction? more like Obsession.



spot on. this brand of capitalism we have today was deliberately inflicted on us by maggie and ronnie who were obsessed with friedman and obsessed with making the rich richer and the poor poorer. scum of the earth

its capitalism for the poor and socialism for the rich.
nearly all todays problems stem from the likes of her.
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
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You've misunderstood me, Stanley - that wasn't aimed at you - or anyone on this forum, for that matter. In fact, I haven't even read the comments on this thread. I've seen and heard very ignorant comments made about her elsewhere that are based on absolutely nothing.


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Fair enough mate


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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
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You've misunderstood me, Stanley - that wasn't aimed at you - or anyone on this forum, for that matter. In fact, I haven't even read the comments on this thread. I've seen and heard very ignorant comments made about her elsewhere that are based on absolutely nothing.


Wait till you read Stan's then!

How did they take the news over there in Ireland Bar?


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In the uk we have had 20 year old dancing in the streets. What f&cking idiotsthey only know the myth without thatcher they would probably be speaking Russian and living in a third world hell whole. Total brain dead idiots..

Bar at least showed.some intelligence and balance. Yes she was divisive but I urge people especially young people to understand the facts of that situation not what you have been told by your left wing dad.

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Ah you see KP Stan fought a losing battle on this thread, so started another thread defending the witch but used Hillsborough as one of the key words in that thread to keep people interested, whilst he secretly tried to force his political views down our throats. Thatcher was a witch and its a shame the IRA didnt get her in Brighton.

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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
By the way SP... biggest welfare block in Britain = corporations and peerage. So-called handouts to the so-called scrounging poor are pennies to the pound when it comes to the corporate handouts and taxpayers propping up the peerage system and filthy rich.

You've been sold a line Mate... open your eyes!


The rich never did better han under new labour its you that have been sold the line


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Thatcher was one extreme. Scargill the other extreme. Something in the middle may've suited all. I live in an ex-mining town in the North West. It used to be an affluent area in the 70s. Thatcher's legacy has crushed the place. People move slower. People look unhealthy. Crime is high. Unemployment massive. Only now are pockets of development beginning to lift the place - but the legacy of the last 30 years will take a further 30 years to get back on track. Nevertheless the unions had far too much power. Something needed to be done. But not the other extreme.

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