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look nothing is black and white with political terms. even gadaffi did a lot for his country. you got a free gaf when you got married for christ sake, and a guaranteed job under the colonel.
tbh i have seen a lot of hatred towards different politicians, but only tyrants deaths are celebrated. fair enough the aul bitch did a job on the unions who were fcking about, but thats nothing compared to the horrors she inflicted on the working class in england and the damage she did in the north of ireland. Did the work she do not lead to the Good Friday agreement which eventually lead to the peace process?
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thats like the ludicrous claim i heard on the radio today that said in a round about way the irish should be greatful to thatcher because without her we wouldnt have had the hunger strikers.
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Just read the original article in the mail totally misrepresented. After heysel some of the cabinet wanted to close down professional football. I repeat that close down professional football altogether thatcher stopped that. There was also a call for compulsory identity cards for all fans against which she resisted. There was nothing about hillsborough I saw unless its a different article somewhere.
I agree with the article there should have been a minutes silence this is one of our greatest ever states person whoever you think of them up there with Churchill. It would be the world's noisiest minutes silence.
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Well I'm with Dunk on this one, Thatcher divided and de-industrialed her own country for no good reason, other than appease her own anti working class bias and her party's rich backers, mostly from the financial sector, even Michael Heseltine, a senior tory himself, was forced to disagree publicly with her policies. She single handedly made Germany the undisputed industrial heartland of Europe, I would class that as treasonable! Her treatment of working people, including her attack on the welfare state and the health care system was little short of treason also, not to mention those international criminals she befriended in the name of her country and people.
Anyone who will defend Thatcher and her policies is either or both a very heartless or an ignorant person indeed. Germany was the industrial heartland well before thatcher came to power. In 1979 our industry was a sick joke. They spend £140m refitting British leyland equivalent to £1billion today to build a new fleet of cars that failed to sell with red robbo organising strike after strike No Stanley, what your country needed to keep up with, and compete with Germany was policies similar to what the Japanese followed after the 2nd world war, not a mad bitch who set about dismantling what you still had.
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Thatcher may well be remembered at best for reforming one or two things in this country but it has to be said she stood on a lot of people to do it without a care in the world.The only ones who cared were the ones that got shafted by her and her government,the unions where definitely of the day and had many faults but they never done as much damage to our communities like she did.I watched how my family my friends,neighbours and the city were ground down and destroyed by her to the point were they couldn't look after themselves let alone the extended family.Suddenly it had to be every man for himself which went against everything we were brought up to do.Some may say they were reforms overdue but there is no doubt in my mind she done it with a complete selfishness and lack of compassion for her own ends that cast her own country men/women/children out.If that makes her great in some peoples eyes then...... Her own children didn't even bother visiting her recently not even for Christmas,that speaks volumes to me.
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I dont agree with the article dunk. Its left wing claptrap. You're totally missing the point of the article which was that people should go easy on those who have opted not to show respect for her passing.
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Just read the original article in the mail totally misrepresented. After heysel some of the cabinet wanted to close down professional football. I repeat that close down professional football altogether thatcher stopped that. There was also a call for compulsory identity cards for all fans against which she resisted. There was nothing about hillsborough I saw unless its a different article somewhere.
I agree with the article there should have been a minutes silence this is one of our greatest ever states person whoever you think of them up there with Churchill. It would be the world's noisiest minutes silence. It would but that is no reason not to have it. The issue is for those who would boo and shout through a minutes silence. I can only speak for myself there are never any circumstances I would do that. But that's my values.
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I dont agree with the article dunk. Its left wing claptrap. You're totally missing the point of the article which was that people should go easy on those who have opted not to show respect for her passing. Dunk I have no problem with that let everyone speak as they wish opinions make the world go round. But not some of the nasty stuff we are about to see on the 17th when I predict the socialist workers party and other louts drinking and cheering at a funeral. Apologies for the tone by the way I did not realise you wrote the article.
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Just read the original article in the mail totally misrepresented. After heysel some of the cabinet wanted to close down professional football. I repeat that close down professional football altogether thatcher stopped that. There was also a call for compulsory identity cards for all fans against which she resisted. There was nothing about hillsborough I saw unless its a different article somewhere.
I agree with the article there should have been a minutes silence this is one of our greatest ever states person whoever you think of them up there with Churchill. It would be the world's noisiest minutes silence. It would but that is no reason not to have it. The issue is for those who would boo and shout through a minutes silence. I can only speak for myself there are never any circumstances I would do that. But that's my values. I think its absolutely ludicrous to suggest that people should remain silent in honour of a woman who destroyed their lives and the lives of them closest to them. And if people arent going to stay silent then there is no point in having the silence as it would be completely pointless.
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Thatcher may well be remembered at best for reforming one or two things in this country but it has to be said she stood on a lot of people to do it without a care in the world.The only ones who cared were the ones that got shafted by her and her government,the unions where definitely of the day and had many faults but they never done as much damage to our communities like she did.I watched how my family my friends,neighbours and the city were ground down and destroyed by her to the point were they couldn't look after themselves let alone the extended family.Suddenly it had to be every man for himself which went against everything we were brought up to do.Some may say they were reforms overdue but there is no doubt in my mind she done it with a complete selfishness and lack of compassion for her own ends that cast her own country men/women/children out.If that makes her great in some peoples eyes then...... Her own children didn't even bother visiting her recently not even for Christmas,that speaks volumes to me. The unions did destroy those communities not sure if you were around in the 1970's but the unions quite literally ran the country between 1975 and 1979 until eventually Britain collapsed under the winter of discontent. The lowest point was in 79 in Liverpool, when they were going to throw bodies in the sea because of the gravediggers strike.
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