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Originally Posted By: Pops
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I think out of all the players we could bring in. If there are going to be five I'd hope for:

Bruno Martins Indi (8mil): good young player who is decent on the left too. Wouldn't be first pick, but can see him getting better and being a really decent player. Plus it would save us having to get a back up to Enrique.

Sakho (15mil): He's just a beast, would frighten attackers.

Alonso (10mil): can play in that defensive/holding midfielder roll and has the experience. Would also link up well with Stevie again.

Erikson (20mil): let's just hope. He's got some skills.

Gameiro (10mil): we need another striker, united have 4 good strikers, we could use another one.

These players won't be cheap, but if FSG give out the 20 mil and we sell Carroll, Skrtel, Spearing, Assaidi and a few of the fringe players like Flanno and maybe Robbo, then we might be able to get around 30mil which would give us enough for most of them.




I don't know about Alonso and Stevie anymore. Stevie has slowed a lot, and he basically does what Alonso used to do. We don't need another left winger, especially an "young promising one". Coutinho, Sterling, and Assaidi are enough.


Alonso so is a master tacttian and knows where to be and when. The guys won everything and has never been the low point of a team. His presence alone would be invaluable. Plus, him and Gerrard might not be the quickest, but they know the game and its what they do with the ball that will count. They could show the young guys a few tricks.

Who's the left winger your talking about?


Sorry, I misread the martins one. He's a left back, not a left wing. I'm not saying Alonso wouldn't be valuable, but he isn't what he need. He would be a luxury player, especially if we bought Erikson:
Henderson, Gerrard, Lucas, Erikson, Shelvy, Suso, Allen, Alonso

Someone is going to be benched. Even playing 3 in the center, Either Lucas, Gerrard, Alonso, or Erikson would have to sit. And that's also leaving a lot of players on the sidelines.

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Teaching the team how to defend is br Achilles heel...


I disagree to a certain extent. Kenny had the same problem as did Hodgson and lets be honest it's the type of goal we conceed which worries me. The long ball in between our centre halfs might as well be a hand grenade. Set pieces have been a massive problem since Hyppia left, interstingly our best winner of such battles was Andy Carrol last season who defended better than he attacked.

the team needs a dominate centre half and one who can develop a partnership with Agger. There is also an argument for the return of Alonso as he won many aheader at set pieces.

Where BR has done well is that he has brought in players who can beat a man. Coutinho, Sturridge, Sterling(played more), Suso along with Suarez and a now reinvigorated Downing offer a genuine threat when one on one with a defender - vs last year of Maxi and Kuyt. The addition of Alonso would/could be magical as he has the passing to release these players. A rigid and strong centre will allow the pacy/skilfull players the platform to thrive.

We are a better team that is for sure, but still someway off challenging the top two. Everton are having the best season in years and we are just behind them.


Did we conceed that many last season? Not sure. It appears to me that Agger and Skrtl partnership was among the best in the league, but, I might be mistaken.


We did concede a lot of set pieces. Skyrtel had a great year last year, but I don't think he can replicate it. He's been very inconsistant every other year.

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Did I hear the commentators say on Sunday that only man city have kept more clean sheets than us? To me that's suggests we have a good defence normally but when we come up against big guys like Walters and benteke we can't handle them at all and end up conceding 3. That wouldn't be too hard to patch up surely?


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That is true. A real powerful center half to replace skyrtel and another DM to give us a more physical option than lucas in those games, and I think the defense is sorted.

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I am not so big on selling Skrtel, I would like him in the team, but nit in the starting 11. We need an enforcer in defense but Skrtel coming off the bench or as cover would be great. Problem is, I don't think he would accept that role and to be honest, I don't blame him. I think if he was playing in any league other than the EPL he would be a giant of a defender, but the pace of the EPL just catches him out too often.


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I am not so big on selling Skrtel, I would like him in the team, but nit in the starting 11. We need an enforcer in defense but Skrtel coming off the bench or as cover would be great. Problem is, I don't think he would accept that role and to be honest, I don't blame him. I think if he was playing in any league other than the EPL he would be a giant of a defender, but the pace of the EPL just catches him out too often.


I don't think it's the pace, per se. He was fine last year. He just seems to have bizarre mental lapses. He has no footballing brain.

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Originally Posted By: gnp-uk
Teaching the team how to defend is br Achilles heel...


I disagree to a certain extent. Kenny had the same problem as did Hodgson and lets be honest it's the type of goal we conceed which worries me. The long ball in between our centre halfs might as well be a hand grenade. Set pieces have been a massive problem since Hyppia left, interstingly our best winner of such battles was Andy Carrol last season who defended better than he attacked.

the team needs a dominate centre half and one who can develop a partnership with Agger. There is also an argument for the return of Alonso as he won many aheader at set pieces.

Where BR has done well is that he has brought in players who can beat a man. Coutinho, Sturridge, Sterling(played more), Suso along with Suarez and a now reinvigorated Downing offer a genuine threat when one on one with a defender - vs last year of Maxi and Kuyt. The addition of Alonso would/could be magical as he has the passing to release these players. A rigid and strong centre will allow the pacy/skilfull players the platform to thrive.

We are a better team that is for sure, but still someway off challenging the top two. Everton are having the best season in years and we are just behind them.


Intereting analysis, good post.


have to totally disagree regarding alonso...if there was one thing that i used to cringe it was alonso defending. terrible at it..nearly always loses his man and ends up grabbing them around the hip..

although samba had a mare 1st half last night i still think he could be hyppia like presence we have missed. williams is a big no i think everyone agrees. shawcross be very good but massive money. again it all comes down to who goes down,there are good centre halfs in some of those teams

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Personally wouldn't have Clarke anywhere near our squad he's not good enough, Taylor is class but again not LFC standard, Colocinni as you said will probably go back home, the only decent buy from a club going down would be Samba for me, sell Coates and bring in another CB then we have Agger, Skrtel, Samba and a new lad ideally De Vrij as he can play RB and CB

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Clarke is nowhere near good enough. EMP do you just think that all Irish players are great or just certain ones?

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clark will be good enough. he will be a great. doesn't matter what nationality he is.

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