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I will laugh with you. We have to get into the champions league next two seasons or we really are finished and all your graphs of the Red Sox and how their revenues increased ten years ago will do us no good at all,

I will stand by the strength of my arguments. Every time you throw a strop I smile because it means you are frustrated. If you have something to argue then present your argument in a reasoned manner if you have a point I will concede it I don't don't everything. Posting links from the Internet is not presenting facts firstly not everything on the Internet s fact second it is normally out of context. For example your posting of the revenue increase of the Red Sox over the last 10 years that does not mean Liverpool will be exactly the same as that situation that is almost childish. Tell me this..... How will Liverpool increase revenues from anfield and overseas more than manchester utd, arsenal, Chelsea, man city over the next ten years ? How will that happen ?

I'll just say I hope we'll be laughing together! Now come on, show some spirit lad! YNWA. Don't let business decisions taint your love for LFC!

Stanley, I didn't once say we had to increase our revenues more than those clubs, nor that we would. However, they have started exploiting avenues which were not being used before, untapped resources that other clubs were using and we weren't. Surely that a good thing, it will lessen the gap.

As far as red sox graphs over the past 10 years, sure, it doesn't mean it will be the same at LFC but by pure logic, applying the same strategy to the same type of business will ultimately lead to the same/very similar results.

Last but not least, I am not throwing strops, I am simply pointing out that whilst I have posted evidence backing up my arguments, from credible sources, done after vast research, you on the other hand are yet to provide one concrete piece of evidence of all the gloom and doom you are predicting.

Marko none of us can provide concrete evidence of how we are going to progress if we knew that we would be billionaires. I feel Liverpool have "missed the boat" by not building a new stada 15 years ago and by various ccck ups which have resulted in us falling out of the top 4.

By any reasoned logic I cannot see how Liverpool can overtake manchester utd or any of the top 4 by fans financing it alone. It just cannot be done in my opinion whether those fans are from Liverpool or inda or wherever,

Other clubs are too far ahead. FSG are a penny pinching bunch of speculators who don't have the means to finance Liverpool FC. Or if they do they are not wiling to. Risk it.

I ask again how do you think we will overtake the clubs above us ?

Can you please quote the post where I stated that LFC would overtake the ones above us. All I said is that FSG are doing things the right way to close the gap and have the club running more efficiently with higher income which with time will translate into better performances on the pitch as we will have more solid foundations to build on.

What according to you would be a target which could be expected with FSG's right way of doing things?

Ok but in my opinion FSG are not doing things the right way to close the gap. They should be encouraging support at anfield not driving it away. As for the overseas marketing that was done agressively under both moores parry era and Gillett and hicks I don't see anything new under FSG.

Marketing abroad under Moores and G&H was nowhere near what it is currently, and Moores/Parry had everything on their side when we were one of the most successful teams in the world. I put all the responsibility of our current shitty situation on Moores who because of a few additional bucks sold us to G&H instead of DIC. You are being unfair by not giving due credit to FSG/Ayre regarding the sponsorship deals. Not everything is wrong with FSG

Maybe the marketing is better under FSG I don't know I have never measured it.

I am too busy posting on here.

But under moores and Gillett and hicks we had good sponsorship and we marketed to the Far East. But we were a better and bigger club then as you say.

But if things carry on FSG will find the next set of sponsorship deals more challenging.