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Definition of support
verb
be actively interested in and concerned for the success of (a particular sports team):
fans should always support their team fully, no matter what

and here is a link for your future English language enquiries...

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/support?q=Support

You are lacking evidence and are resorting to silly tactics and sidestepping to avoid admitting you might be wrong...

For gods sake marko what are you doing? I have a mate who is a season ticket holder at city and I have close friends who have a corporate box at city. I can tell you for sure they don't sell out for prem games. There are empty spaces in the ground. What happens is they have block sold corporate areas and the people never attend but the tickets are sold. Plus the cup games are not sold out. Bear in mind this is ax club too of the league with tickets half the price of ours. Yes the tickets are sold but what is the point of selling tickets if no fans turn up. So you see marko there is more to football than a google search engine. And there is much more about Liverpool FC going on here that you will never know about. The Internet only gives you a part of the story. And yes do realise city get the money for those corporate tickets but the fact is they cannot get enough fans to fill the stadium even when so far ahead of LFC. And please stop googling and pasting things it's not helping your case.

God how arrogant and ignorant you are...here is one more link for you, to a serious study conducted by g the Commission of the European Communities, whom I tend to trust just a tad more than "You and your buddies" over at city...

The study shows that not only have average attendance increased over the past 10 years in the PL but also average tv viewing numbers....These guys are paid professionals, paid to analyze sports..if you still believe you know more about the viewing habits and attendances in the PL and LFC than they do then I can't be bothered discussing it further with you...

http://ec.europa.eu/competition/antitrust/cases/dec_docs/38173/38173_104_7.pdf

Oh yes, 1 more thing mate....WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE?

PROOF?

Oh and my mothers brothers aunties uncles grandad's dog was once fed by Shekh Mansour himself...lol...and you ask me what I am doing? Show me PROOF!

Marko I am telling you what my friends at city tell me and show me it was empty in parts against Liverpool when I was physically there. I saw it with my own eyes.

I am not proving that to you if you don't Belive me that's your problem. I am telling the truth if you are saying I am lying again that's your problem

I will not resort to name calling.

I dont remember ever saying you were lying or calling you a lyer...I am simply asking you to provide some proof of what you are saying..at the moment i choose not to believe you, because I believe you are just a disgruntled fan who has been moaning about ticket prices, along with some others on here, for ever and ever.

You cannot accept the fact that you can and will be replaced and have decided to go on a mission against FSG since the ticket price hike was announced.

That's my opinion and the way I see things and what I believe. I have however provided evidence for everything I have said regarding FSG. You ask me for evidence to back up my statements but then sidestep when you are asked for the same. I don't need to debate with you anymore, the posts are here for everyone to see, that you have no proof of what you are saying and that you are repeating yourself over and over again yet at the same time contradicting yourself...

If you wish to discuss something and debate it on a forum, turning a blind eye and talking about google and stuff, once things aren't going your way is not the best way to go about it!

Marko I have told you what my friends said who are season ticket holders / box holders at city and earlier this year when I was their guest they showed me the empty spaces. I am giving you my word that is true.

If you don't believe me there is nothing really I can do short of asking the city fans to post on here with proof of identity.

I do spend too much time on here. But marko I can assure you there is a real world out three google is not and never will be the world.

Both man city and Liverpool are real clubs with real stadiums made of bricks and iron. They have real people inside them too. Yet your whole universe seems to be posting links from the Internet. That is not healthy marko really nt.

Get yourself another trip to anfield and talk to a few people in the sandon and arkles let them tell yiou about FSG. Because they are the soul of the club just as in that article you posted from the net earlier tonight.

Stanley you asked for evidence...short of me posting links to studies on here for you there isn't much else I can do...I am sure as hell not posting it by royal mail to you!.

you forgot us reds who go the salisbury and the stanley .

The match day revenue (match going fans) is 23% of the revenue, it was in the Spirit of Shankly minutes if i am not mistaken. The rest would be TV rights, sponsorship and merchandise. So though match going fans is very important and probably the biggest contributor per consumer, the club relies a massively on OOT consumer fans through watching TV and buying merchandise worldwide. The sponsorship deals are there thanks to the global fan base. These consumers are much much bigger in numbers but spend probably less per person compared to match going fans.

Coming back to City's'game attendance, according to you it is a sell out but seats of the stadium are empty. I don't know if they have a long waiting list. I would say so what? They are selling all their tickets and probably the price is not high enough, this is why some people are buying and are not bothered to miss some games, hopefully all those wishing to go to games can buy a ticket without any problems.