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Originally Posted By: cp1972
Hey Stan
it's the culture of football not the club. The cultural gap between fans and players is now a chasm and it's sort of lost it's magic. I personally treat it as going the pub with my mates on match day, lads who I grew up with who I would not see normally as I am now 40+ and have a family and work etc.

there is a silver lining though, I went the Wigan away game and it was full of young 18-25 lads having a laugh an just enjoying the banter, not seen this in 2/3yrs at away games. My manu mate had similar experience, there is a baton being passed over and if tickets prices start to fall then maybe just maybe a new generation can relight passion and humour.
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Dreading Wigan being relegated they are local and about £25 a ticket and you can get a ticket in the Wigan end no problem. As long as you are sensible there are never any problem. Getting in the away section with Liverpool is all but impossible due to the clubs lunatic system which has meant going to away games is the same people wth others (including season ticket holders) being all but impossible to break into. Liverpool FC are increasingly becoming a joke club.


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For some reason, LFC is so obsessed with their history that they seem determined to stay in the past and not move with the times. We'll never be a force again with that kind of approach to the modern football world.

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More now than 32 years ago when I was introduced to Liverpool. Very rarely get to go to games so the internet and tv are my lifeline. Look every lunch for rumours and news then the games when they pop up. Kept an eye on the Sky Sports telecastor and was so gutted over the final score have still been unable to see the highlights. Teaching my 4 kids the LFC way and they take stick from their friends for who they support but are true to the cause and take the verbal abuse. Should be working now but felt had to respond. Hopefully we are on our way up to at least compete rather than been hanging on the fringes YNWA

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: cp1972
Hey Stan
it's the culture of football not the club. The cultural gap between fans and players is now a chasm and it's sort of lost it's magic. I personally treat it as going the pub with my mates on match day, lads who I grew up with who I would not see normally as I am now 40+ and have a family and work etc.

there is a silver lining though, I went the Wigan away game and it was full of young 18-25 lads having a laugh an just enjoying the banter, not seen this in 2/3yrs at away games. My manu mate had similar experience, there is a baton being passed over and if tickets prices start to fall then maybe just maybe a new generation can relight passion and humour.
Germany is brilliant to watch a game


Dreading Wigan being relegated they are local and about £25 a ticket and you can get a ticket in the Wigan end no problem. As long as you are sensible there are never any problem. Getting in the away section with Liverpool is all but impossible due to the clubs lunatic system which has meant going to away games is the same people wth others (including season ticket holders) being all but impossible to break into. Liverpool FC are increasingly becoming a joke club.


It's may be because demand for LFC tickets is bigger than Wigan's, no?

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Its one of those things really were you feel let down as Stan says then get pushed out,its then you question what it is you are supporting,club,players,or the owners along with all the greedy cretins that is football these days.Ive asked myself who is it im supporting?.The problem starts when you long for progress in the modern day football enviroment knowing we just cant compete with the likes of city,it doesnt come then you have the past glories to look back on.I think if we were winning looking back at our history would seem fine,its only when your losing it could look like we are living in the past but at this moment in time what else is there to do. frown


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Vish I understand demand for tickets is higher for liverpool and thats why they are more expensive than wigan. Do you think we are stupid ?

Not sure why they are more expensive than man utd though they have a bigger following than us and are top of the league. Thats one I dont understand.

But what gets my back up is your high handed text book analysis I am a chartered accountant and have run my own business for 15 years.

I know about elasticity of demand and any one of a number of ratios you want to throw from your lovely tropical island. I also know about keeping a customer base for which I can tell you for sure you will find in no textbook. Once you lose customers you dont get them back, first rule of business.

But with all due respect you dont rub shoulders with the people who go to anfield. I do and I can tell you they are average to middle earners with mortgages and families and in most cases many years of following the club.

They would not appraciate your text book but totally out of touch with what is happening on the ground in Liverpool which right now is snow and sleet.

If you are so right then you pick up the baton and wire accross £1000.

Otherwise show some respect.


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To be fair to vish, he is looking at it from a completely objective point of view with no emotions attached to it whereas you are swayed by your feelings towards price rises.

The reason we are paying more than united do is that they have about 30,000 more tickets a week than we do and so in order to fill out their stadium they have to price at a slightly lower price than we do. I guarantee that if they were as succesful as they are now but playing in Anfield, they would be charging a higher price than Liverpool.

You brought Wigan into the argument so you should have expected a reference to be made to the vast difference in demands.

You keep talking about people on the waiting list not taking up the option but it appears that someone must be going by attendances and until they drop, no one will know if the waiting list is only a myth or not.

If people like yourself or Faz do stop going and they aren't replaced by new fans, the price will drop and even if having lost you, you won't go back somebody will. That is how the club see it

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Vish I understand demand for tickets is higher for liverpool and thats why they are more expensive than wigan. Do you think we are stupid ?

Not sure why they are more expensive than man utd though they have a bigger following than us and are top of the league. Thats one I dont understand.

But what gets my back up is your high handed text book analysis I am a chartered accountant and have run my own business for 15 years.

I know about elasticity of demand and any one of a number of ratios you want to throw from your lovely tropical island. I also know about keeping a customer base for which I can tell you for sure you will find in no textbook. Once you lose customers you dont get them back, first rule of business.

But with all due respect you dont rub shoulders with the people who go to anfield. I do and I can tell you they are average to middle earners with mortgages and families and in most cases many years of following the club.

They would not appraciate your text book but totally out of touch with what is happening on the ground in Liverpool which right now is snow and sleet.

If you are so right then you pick up the baton and wire accross £1000.

Otherwise show some respect.


Show respect to what exactly, TO YOUR CRYING AND MOANING EVERYDAY HERE? You are a chartered accountant who understands everything in price elasticity of demand, but, still you don't seem to understand that the only way to know your ceiling is to increase minimally everytime you can preferably after market surveys, not by rubbing shoulders with your mates who have in a way occupied some specific seats for ages and do not want to change, even if there could be others who value those seats more than you. You also are well aware that it is not ALL seat prices which are being increased, but, probably those which are the most in demand, but, you just want to ignore all this...and you want me to show respect.

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
To be fair to vish, he is looking at it from a completely objective point of view with no emotions attached to it whereas you are swayed by your feelings towards price rises.

The reason we are paying more than united do is that they have about 30,000 more tickets a week than we do and so in order to fill out their stadium they have to price at a slightly lower price than we do. I guarantee that if they were as succesful as they are now but playing in Anfield, they would be charging a higher price than Liverpool.

You brought Wigan into the argument so you should have expected a reference to be made to the vast difference in demands.

You keep talking about people on the waiting list not taking up the option but it appears that someone must be going by attendances and until they drop, no one will know if the waiting list is only a myth or not.

If people like yourself or Faz do stop going and they aren't replaced by new fans, the price will drop and even if having lost you, you won't go back somebody will. That is how the club see it


I think we will be replaced but who will replace the next lot the club is running out of road and bleeding the fans dry which medium term will cost them revenue and possibly the future of the club


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Originally Posted By: vish mauritius
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Vish I understand demand for tickets is higher for liverpool and thats why they are more expensive than wigan. Do you think we are stupid ?

Not sure why they are more expensive than man utd though they have a bigger following than us and are top of the league. Thats one I dont understand.

But what gets my back up is your high handed text book analysis I am a chartered accountant and have run my own business for 15 years.

I know about elasticity of demand and any one of a number of ratios you want to throw from your lovely tropical island. I also know about keeping a customer base for which I can tell you for sure you will find in no textbook. Once you lose customers you dont get them back, first rule of business.

But with all due respect you dont rub shoulders with the people who go to anfield. I do and I can tell you they are average to middle earners with mortgages and families and in most cases many years of following the club.

They would not appraciate your text book but totally out of touch with what is happening on the ground in Liverpool which right now is snow and sleet.

If you are so right then you pick up the baton and wire accross £1000.

Otherwise show some respect.


Show respect to what exactly, TO YOUR CRYING AND MOANING EVERYDAY HERE? You are a chartered accountant who understands everything in price elasticity of demand, but, still you don't seem to understand that the only way to know your ceiling is to increase minimally everytime you can preferably after market surveys, not by rubbing shoulders with your mates who have in a way occupied some specific seats for ages and do not want to change, even if there could be others who value those seats more than you. You also are well aware that it is not ALL seat prices which are being increased, but, probably those which are the most in demand, but, you just want to ignore all this...and you want me to show respect.


I just wish you would come over and see for yourself not me and my mates but the club the area and the fans catchment base, You might then have a persective in addition to your text book analysis.


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