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i mentioned this the other week , to those who watch LFC via television , say from the next game from now onwards , all games on television around the world , its £60 a game and if you watch it on computer your service provider will bill you , how would you all feel would you just say nothing ? would you just give up ? , or would you ask for help back up , fellow reds to give support . £60 a game?? Who would be that stupid?! well you say we are and we should pay it . The fact is either pay it or don't. Someone who can afford it will. Protests won't work (I think) because so many people will take any tickets that are left. It is wrong but the average fan doesn't want to fight for everyone. Most people are out for themselves. Society = reality. suppose to be all the same arent we mate all reds togehther thought that was what we are , that what we get told , well dunk i dont see any camaraderie or solidarity on this mate i see the complete opposite , and the issue isnt tickets will be sold its , a very unfair and unjust ticket hike .
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I don't understand the pay it or not. It seems to imply up the prices until each customer has gone away. I know of no other business that does that the price/revenue graph will be on a inverted U curve. Push along the x-axis and revenue will increase, but at a certain point marginal revenue will equal marginal costs and you'll have profit maximization, push any further and profits will start to decline. So they'll keep raising price til the point that maximises there revenue, which will probably be the point when there is only a minimal waiting list. All businesses try to maximise profit like this, I don't see why its such a surprise to people that they're doing this as they are business people. Whether or not they should be considering the community and taking a hit to profits to subsidise peoples tickets is a different moral issue altogether.
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suppose to be all the same arent we mate all reds togehther thought that was what we are , that what we get told , well dunk i dont see any camaraderie or solidarity on this mate i see the complete opposite , and the issue isnt tickets will be sold its , a very unfair and unjust ticket hike . [/quote]
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I don't understand the pay it or not. It seems to imply up the prices until each customer has gone away. I know of no other business that does that the price/revenue graph will be on a inverted U curve. Push along the x-axis and revenue will increase, but at a certain point marginal revenue will equal marginal costs and you'll have profit maximization, push any further and profits will start to decline. So they'll keep raising price til the point that maximises there revenue, which will probably be the point when there is only a minimal waiting list. All businesses try to maximise profit like this, I don't see why its such a surprise to people that they're doing this as they are business people. Whether or not they should be considering the community and taking a hit to profits to subsidise peoples tickets is a different moral issue altogether. When you buy a football club for £300m your entitled to run it in such a way that you can make whatever profit you deem necessary.
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suppose to be all the same arent we mate all reds togehther thought that was what we are , that what we get told , well dunk i dont see any camaraderie or solidarity on this mate i see the complete opposite , and the issue isnt tickets will be sold its , a very unfair and unjust ticket hike . ----------------------------------------------------------------- Don't be such a drama queen. Our only obvious thing in common is that we all support the same team. It starts and ends there. I didn't realise that we all had to follow some kind of robotic mantra like a bunch of sheep who can't think for themsleves. [/quote] you have nailed you colours firmly to the mast and not showing support for fellow reds is like being a sheep well i have never heard anything so disgusting as that .
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I don't understand the pay it or not. It seems to imply up the prices until each customer has gone away. I know of no other business that does that the price/revenue graph will be on a inverted U curve. Push along the x-axis and revenue will increase, but at a certain point marginal revenue will equal marginal costs and you'll have profit maximization, push any further and profits will start to decline. So they'll keep raising price til the point that maximises there revenue, which will probably be the point when there is only a minimal waiting list. All businesses try to maximise profit like this, I don't see why its such a surprise to people that they're doing this as they are business people. Whether or not they should be considering the community and taking a hit to profits to subsidise peoples tickets is a different moral issue altogether. I dont care what curve it is (you at college?) I have run businesses for years and thats a pretty dangerous way to run a business the textbooks dont tell you how to get your customers back. And once LFC fans go armchair they aint coming back to pay £60 a game.
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[/b] [b]suppose to be all the same arent we mate all reds togehther thought that was what we are , that what we get told , well dunk i dont see any camaraderie or solidarity on this mate i see the complete opposite , and the issue isnt tickets will be sold its , a very unfair and unjust ticket hike . ----------------------------------------------------------------- Don't be such a drama queen. Our only obvious thing in common is that we all support the same team. It starts and ends there. I didn't realise that we all had to follow some kind of robotic mantra like a bunch of sheep who can't think for themsleves.
Hang on faz, I agree that the price rise is morally wrong and signed the petition but some of the other lads are making entirely valid points and I think to brand them as disgusting for having a different view point is very harsh.
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Furthermore, if FSG want only rich fans at the games it's their choice. They own the club. It would be disgraceful and wrong but it's a fact and the way I see things is that if someone can afford to spend 800 pounds on a season ticket, then 850 isn't such a huge increase. Marko this effects you if you ever were to see Liverpool at anfield again it might be say 60 pound sterling which would be as much as your plane ticket Stanley, if I had 60 pounds to spare for a plane ticket and 50 pounds for a match ticket...equaling 110 pounds...whether I spent 110 or 120 wouldn't make a world of difference to me.... Either way, they own the club, it is their property, they can do with it as they wish..but I am sure the last thing they want is an empty stadium, so I am sure they did their calculations before announcing the price increase.
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I don't understand the pay it or not. It seems to imply up the prices until each customer has gone away. I know of no other business that does that the price/revenue graph will be on a inverted U curve. Push along the x-axis and revenue will increase, but at a certain point marginal revenue will equal marginal costs and you'll have profit maximization, push any further and profits will start to decline. So they'll keep raising price til the point that maximises there revenue, which will probably be the point when there is only a minimal waiting list. All businesses try to maximise profit like this, I don't see why its such a surprise to people that they're doing this as they are business people. Whether or not they should be considering the community and taking a hit to profits to subsidise peoples tickets is a different moral issue altogether. I dont care what curve it is (you at college?) I have run businesses for years and thats a pretty dangerous way to run a business the textbooks dont tell you how to get your customers back. And once LFC fans go armchair they aint coming back to pay £60 a game. Nah not at college lol I did do an economics degree a few years ago though. And your probably right, in the long run it's probably not a great move, but do we expect them to be around long enough to care about that? and as Keynes said, in the long run, we're all dead anyway 
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I don't understand the pay it or not. It seems to imply up the prices until each customer has gone away. I know of no other business that does that the price/revenue graph will be on a inverted U curve. Push along the x-axis and revenue will increase, but at a certain point marginal revenue will equal marginal costs and you'll have profit maximization, push any further and profits will start to decline. So they'll keep raising price til the point that maximises there revenue, which will probably be the point when there is only a minimal waiting list. All businesses try to maximise profit like this, I don't see why its such a surprise to people that they're doing this as they are business people. Whether or not they should be considering the community and taking a hit to profits to subsidise peoples tickets is a different moral issue altogether. I dont care what curve it is (you at college?) I have run businesses for years and thats a pretty dangerous way to run a business the textbooks dont tell you how to get your customers back. And once LFC fans go armchair they aint coming back to pay £60 a game. Whether you want to believe it or not, and whether you accept it or not...there will always be a market for premier league football. Now, seeing that you say you have run businesses for years, well, so have FSG and guess what, they have hudreds of millions and here we are debating a 50 pound increase...so you see, this is why I am pretty confident that FSG know what they are doing. I also believe they will be selling the redsox during this year and that they have realised that the global LFC market offers far bigger oppurtunities than the baseball market. Baseball is a very localized game, with a fanbase basically only in America and perhaps Japan...Football has a global fanbase and therefor offers more oppurtunities to make money.
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