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Originally Posted By: gedthered09
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No Ged it's our medical staff that is the reason he is injured all the time. Every time a players leaves his injuries clear up.
Nah you have been listening to Harry Kewell's agent to much, Torres is just an injury prone striker much like Owen and Sahar in that because he relies so much on a burst of pace he is more likely to get injuries like most fast players seem to get, short bursts of speed are harder on the muscles especialy when you twist and turn at speed as well.


Then why was Torres not injury prone until he came here?

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fingers crossed Mark. If we get desperate enough and the clubs future hangs on it, we will have to sell, but hopefully it doesnt come to that.


Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.

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yea thats a good point.


Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.

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in laymans terms, can someone explain to me why we are in such a financial mess? I know we have always been in debt and the yanks are to blame for this.

Someone on here said it was Moores' fault. Is that because he sold out for a bit of cash to owners that know sweet FA about 'soccer'???

If someone could explain in simple terms why we are in a bad way financially that would be great.

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because moores failed to invest in the club while he was in charge, then he sold to two americans with no money who had to borrow the money required to buy the club and they set the debt against the club

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I do accept the offer after that I would spend 20million to fire Rafa and buyback Torres from City. I'm sure he won't happy with Manchester life.

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Thanks Trep. And now everyone is suffering cos the yanks are spending everything on the interest on their loans and any profit is to pay off debt!

I read the minutes of that meeting and we need £100m to pay off some of the debt pretty soon! Thats worrying!

What is promising though is there are 5 or 6 serious investors looking at the club. I wonder if there is any chance of paying off the yanks' debt and getting rid of them once and for all?

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the thing is RBS forced them to pay down the debt in the summer because they are not happy with the way they have debt leveraged on the club ...... they don't see it as a sustainable model for the future of the club - and being the club's bankers they really don't want to see the club in trouble as they would lose millions in future charges ...... that is why they are forcing them to lower the debt or go - what worries me is whether any potential buyer would just want to do the same thing they did to buy us

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Originally Posted By: MarkoP
In those minutes for tha last meeting between Christian Purslow and the SOS, Christian Purslow was asked the question:

"The fans remain unconvinced about the new method of valuing our transfer budget by including wages and new contract deals within it – reports suggest that despite the two current sales that have gone through the Manager will not receive even the sale proceeds to reinvest in this transfer window – is it fair for us to assume that sale proceeds from the Summer transfer window, this and the future window will to some significant extent be used to reduce the Club’s borrowings? If not can we expect sale proceeds plus what you described as “the usual £20m” to be spent in the Summer?"

His reply was : "The reduction of debt does not affect player sales as there is a separate player account and money does not come from this for anything else."

To me, he has said there that players will not be sold to fund the debt. To be honest this might sound a little naive or gullable, but this is the word of the Temp Chief Exec, he knows whats going on, so really we only have this info to go on, and it sounds positive, and i would take from that, that no big stars including Torres, Reina and Gerrard would be sold to pay off debt. Personally, i will choose to listen to this guy than people on here or people in the street.

I really hope he is telling the truth when it comes to this issue. He has done numerous interviews were he has said that big name stars will not be sold to pay off the debt.


Absolutely agree with you. Unless CP is bare faced lying, IF we sold Torres that money would go into the "player account" CP talks about and would be available for player additions, NOT to pay off debt. I would imagine that when the yanks bought the club, a stipulation would have been that selling club assets, i.e players, could not be done to reduce or service the debt taken on by Hicks and Gillet. I'm no lawyer but I think it may well be illegal to do so in terms of the status of the club and is why CP is always saying that not only will the club not sell players to reduce debt, but they actually CAN'T sell players to reduce debt and the only place for sale funds to go is into the player account. Therefore I can't see the club accepting a £100m bid for Torres, unless Rafa actually thinks it will improve the team and I don't think he will do that.

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