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the only time we had a fall in attendance I can remember is when good old Roy was in charge
they started to drop a bit towards the end of Dalglish and there are starting to show a few empty seats against Swansea since the fourth place was gone, think it shows clearly our fanbase isn't as loyal or dependable when things are not going as well on the pitch, gonna be interesting with 7 or 8 seasons of bog standard mid table mediocrity ahead of us, that's the real test...


How can that be a test? Except you, no LFC fan would like LFC to stay in the mid table for 7-8 seasons.

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See below: EDIT: formatting messed up a bit see original link - http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/22/premier-league-season-ticket-prices

Arsenal


Average attendance 60,000 (-0.04% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices for 2012-13 £985-£1955 (frozen, includes seven cup matches)

Adult matchday prices for 2012-13 to be confirmed

Last May the Arsenal Supporters' Trust accused their club of "pricing loyal supporters out of the Emirates" on the back of a 6.5% rise in the cost of standard tickets. This year prices have been frozen for 35,000 gold level season-ticket holders who pay up to £1,955, while 7,000 club-level season ticket holders will pay 2% more. Ivan Gazidis, Arsenal's chief executive, said: "We understand the pressures fans are under in the current economic climate and hope this will go some way to helping them."


Aston Villa


Average attendance 33,873 (-8.93% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices £295-£580 in early‑bird scheme (frozen); £325-£595 afterwards (up 1%-3%)

Adult matchday prices tbc

The combination of Alex McLeish's appointment as manager last summer and a dismal season resulted in Villa attendances falling to their lowest level since the 2000-01 campaign. Villa have frozen season ticket prices for anyone buying before 1 June, regraded 2,000 seats – some of these seats, now the third cheapest in the league, were £580 last season – and introduced a family ticket for two adults and two under‑16s, which would have cost in excess of £1,100 last season and is now £695.



Chelsea


Average attendance 41,498 (+0.17% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices £595-£1,250 (frozen)

Adult matchday prices £36‑£82 (members, frozen), £41-£87 (non-members, frozen)

In March Chelsea announced a price freeze on all domestic matches at Stamford Bridge next season and a cut in the cost of attending home games in the Champions League group stage. Ron Gourlay, Chelsea's chief executive, said the club feel this is "the right approach to take in the current economic conditions". The previous year, Chelsea had upset supporters by raising prices across the board. Chelsea have 25,000 season ticket holders and though there is no waiting list there are few empty seats at Stamford Bridge.



Everton


Average attendance 33,228 (-7.8% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices £399-£597.60 in early‑bird period, now closed; £443‑£672 afterwards up 3%)

Adult matchday prices tbc, but set to be increased at or near the rate of inflation

No fresh investment, a lack of new signings and a poor start to the campaign played a part in gates falling in 2011-12 although season-ticket sales for 2012-13 are promising and have already passed the 20,000 barrier, up 5% on this time last year. Everton have increased season ticket prices for adults during the early‑bird period for the first time in three years. They have introduced a £95 season ticket for junior school children – 1,000 youngsters have already signed up.



Fulham


Average attendance 25,294 (-0.6% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices £399-£909 in early‑bird period (up 5%); £449-£959 afterwards (up 2.1%-18.5%)

Adult matchday prices tbc

Fulham have increased season ticket prices by an average 5% during the early‑bird period, although 295 entry‑level adult seats have risen from £329 to £399. Fulham have regraded a further 2,713 seats to entry level – 1,550 of them will be £20 lower, 700 are frozen and the other 463 are up by £30, which Fulham say means their lowest-priced adult season tickets will bring in only 0.3% more in revenue. Those in family areas stand to benefit in the post-early bird period, although there are some hikes elsewhere.



Liverpool


Average attendance 44,253 (+3.35% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices £725-£780 (frozen)

Adult matchday prices £39‑£48 (frozen)

Liverpool announced last week that ticket prices would be frozen for the 2012-13 campaign, after a modest rise the previous year. Ian Ayre, Liverpool's managing director, said that a disappointing season, in which Liverpool won only six league games at Anfield and which ended with Kenny Dalglish's dismissal, played a part in the decision to hold prices. "Having reviewed the current UK economic climate and our up and down team performance we felt it important to flatten prices despite UK inflation being around 3.5%," he said.



Manchester City


Average attendance 47,031 (+2.5% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices for 2012-13 £275-£745 (up 9%)

Adult matchday prices for 2012-13 tbc, with news expected in mid-July

Time for the City fans to pay a bit more for the pleasure of watching the Premier League champions: after a 6% rise last year, City have pushed prices up by an average 9% for 2012‑13. Some adults and those in the 18‑21 category will pay 10% more. The club are still operating the Value Gold season ticket, which is the second cheapest seat in the Premier League even after rising £15 to £275, although they will not say how many are available. Season tickets were capped at 36,500 in 2011-12.



Manchester United


Average attendance 75,387 (+0.37% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices £532-£950 (frozen)

Adult matchday prices Members £30-£52 (up 5%); non‑members £35-£57 (up 4.4%)

United supporters calling for a reduction in season ticket prices had to settle for a price freeze instead. This is the first year at Old Trafford that a season ticket is proportionally cheaper than members' matchday tickets, which have gone up by an average of 5%, making them £2 more expensive per game than the equivalent season ticket-held seat. Non-members' matchday tickets are up 4.4% and work out at £7 more per game than the equivalent season ticket. United expect to have 52,000 season-ticket holders.


Newcastle United


Average attendance 49,935 (+4.65% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices £373-£717 for one-year renewals (up 5%)

Adult matchday prices tbc

These are heady days at St James' Park. The club's fifth-placed finish last season, allied to a number of ticket initiatives, contributed to crowds rising by close to 5%. The club launched a 10-year price freeze deal 12 months ago, guaranteeing the cost of a season ticket until 2021, and they have followed that up with a nine-year scheme along the same lines. Those renewing for one season, or buying for the first time for one year only, will suffer a 5% price rise. Newcastle say that they have waiting lists for several areas for the first time since 2000.



Norwich City


Average attendance 26,605 (+4.8% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices £547-£608 (up 11%)

Adult matchday prices for 2012-13 tbc

Most Norwich fans will have to pay at least 10% more to watch Premier League football next season, compared to the 2011-12 prices which were set when they were a Championship club. The cheapest adult season tickets are up by £47.50, or 11.2%, to £471, while some youngsters will have to pay twice as much as before. Norwich point out that they have a very high number of entry-level seats (14,744 in a capacity of 27,220). There have certainly been no protests from fans – Norwich are closing in on 22,000 season-ticket holders, which is their maximum.



Queens Park Rangers


Average attendance 17,295 (+10.61% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices £499-£949 (frozen from revised 2011-12 prices)

Adult matchday prices tbc

QPR's former owners caused outrage last year when they hiked season tickets by almost 40% after winning promotion and increased matchday prices to as much as £72. When Tony Fernandes took control in August he reduced matchday prices and gave season-ticket holders a £50 voucher for the club shop. Season ticket prices for the 2012-13 season have been frozen to the revised levels in 2011-12. The club will not disclose how many season‑ticket holders they have but confirmed there is a waiting list at the Premier League's smallest stadium.



Reading


Average attendance 19,219 (-6.66% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices for 2012-13 £375-£425 before 27 April (frozen), £525-£595 from 15 May (up 33%)

Adult matchday prices £32-£45 (up between 39% and 74%)

Promotion to the Premier League has resulted in an inevitable price hike for matchday and season tickets, although those who bought the latter in the early‑bird windows will, in some cases, be watching top-flight football for less than they paid in the Championship. Prices are generally cheaper than when Reading were last promoted to the Premier League. Reading have 14,500 season-ticket holders but expect to hit their maximum level of 18,000 by the end of the summer and have a waiting list.



Stoke City


Average attendance 27,225 (+1.37% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices £399‑£599 (frozen)

Adult matchday prices tbc

For a fifth successive year, Stoke City froze season-ticket prices for those buying during the early-bird period, which closed at the end of March. Stoke broke their record for season ticket sales when they hit 22,000 last year and they are hopeful of improving on it again this summer. They have four competitively priced age categories for youngsters and say that more than 25% of their season‑ticket holders are under the age of 21. With the Britannia Stadium close to full every week, the club are looking into filling in the corners of the ground.



Sunderland


Average attendance 39,095 (-2.28% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices £425-£525 (up 5%)

Adult matchday prices £25‑£40 (up by average £2.5%)

Crowds fell this season but Martin O'Neill's arrival arrested the decline and also contributed to the best season-ticket sales since the club returned to the Premier League five years ago. In February, Sunderland announced a price freeze on season tickets bought before 26 March, and the number of new applicants in this period was up 50% on previous years. Supporters can purchase a "Wear On Our Way" pass which costs £20 and includes bus and metro travel to and from all games at the Stadium of Light from anywhere in Tyne and Wear.



Swansea City

Average attendance 19,946 (+27.15% on 2010‑11)

Adult season ticket prices £449-£499 (up 10.4%)

Adult matchday prices tbc

Premier League football increased gates by more than 25% but those Swansea fans who enjoyed watching Brendan Rodgers's side last season will have to pay at least 10% more in 2012‑13, compared to the 2011-12 prices which were set when they were a Championship club. To secure the best rates, fans had to sign up before the end of 2011. Cheapest seats are more expensive than the majority of Premier League clubs, but fans have not been discouraged: all 16,000 season tickets are sold out for next season and there is a lengthy waiting list.



Tottenham Hotspur


Average attendance 36,026 (+0.9% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices £730‑£1,845 (up by 3.6%‑5.79%)

Adult matchday prices tbc

With the ground full every week and 30,000 supporters on a waiting list for one of the 23,500 season tickets, it is easy to see why Spurs are so keen to move to a bigger stadium. They have put season ticket prices for 2012‑13 up by an average of £1.50 per game. The club say they have sought to keep the increase in line with inflation and relative to "increased administrative and operational costs", and point to added benefits like free access to Spurs TV (worth £40). The cheapest adult season ticket has gone up from £690 to £730, which is a 5.79% increase.



West Bromwich Albion


Average attendance 24,844 (+0.84% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices £349-£449 (down 11.3%)

Adult matchday prices tbc

Albion have taken the unprecedented step of cutting season ticket prices by big margins, with the exception of the over-60s category where prices are frozen. All adult season tickets are down by £50, the under‑18 discount has been extended to under‑21s, where prices are reduced by up to £70, and the under‑16 discount has been extended to under‑17s, where prices are reduced by up to £30. Mark Jenkins, West Bromwich Albion's chief executive, said: "We are hopeful this will lead to more young fans and families attending our home matches."



West Ham United


Average attendance 31,079 (-7% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices for 2012-13 £600-£850 (up 16.6%, but same as 2010-11)

Adult matchday prices tbc

West Ham's owners stayed true to their promise that, if the club won promotion to the Premier League at the first time of asking, season ticket prices would revert to the same level as 2010-11, when they were last in the top flight. It means that fans will have to stump up an average of 16.6% more than last season, although many will deem that a price worth paying to see the back of the Championship. Entry‑level adult seats are considerably higher than at QPR and Fulham, although prices for younger supporters are more competitive.



Wigan Athletic


Average attendance 18,633 (+10.83% on 2010-11)

Adult season ticket prices £255-£350 (up 2%)

Adult matchday prices tbc

Wigan continue to offer the cheapest tickets in the Premier League – their most expensive adult seat for those renewing before 24 June, which is only £300, is just £25 more than the lowest-priced seat at any other top-flight club. Their average attendance increased more, proportionally, last season than any other top-flight club with the exception of the newly promoted Swansea City. Wigan have reduced prices for under-21s by 5% and brought under‑16 prices down by 35%, offering a season ticket for £85 (£4.47 per game).

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
I once again question your statement that attendances dropped for the Swansea game considering the official attendance of 44,832... just a fact of course...
look its up to you who you want to believe the Club who gave the attendences based on tickets they might of sold or me or anybody else who was actualy sitting in the stand and looking with my own eyes, I am telling you there was empty seats in all the stands I could see, not bothered if you agree or not...

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Originally Posted By: coolflames
Originally Posted By: Maxi88
I once again question your statement that attendances dropped for the Swansea game considering the official attendance of 44,832... just a fact of course...
look its up to you who you want to believe the Club who gave the attendences based on tickets they might of sold or me or anybody else who was actualy sitting in the stand and looking with my own eyes, I am telling you there was empty seats in all the stands I could see, not bothered if you agree or not...


Should've gone to Specsavers smirk

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Originally Posted By: coolflames
Originally Posted By: Maxi88
I once again question your statement that attendances dropped for the Swansea game considering the official attendance of 44,832... just a fact of course...
look its up to you who you want to believe the Club who gave the attendences based on tickets they might of sold or me or anybody else who was actualy sitting in the stand and looking with my own eyes, I am telling you there was empty seats in all the stands I could see, not bothered if you agree or not...


You dont deal well with facts grin

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Originally Posted By: coolflames
Originally Posted By: Maxi88
I once again question your statement that attendances dropped for the Swansea game considering the official attendance of 44,832... just a fact of course...
look its up to you who you want to believe the Club who gave the attendences based on tickets they might of sold or me or anybody else who was actualy sitting in the stand and looking with my own eyes, I am telling you there was empty seats in all the stands I could see, not bothered if you agree or not...


yep I think I might go with the club on this one seeing as they are using a bit of a better system to count attendance than "using your eyes"

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
Originally Posted By: coolflames
Originally Posted By: Maxi88
I once again question your statement that attendances dropped for the Swansea game considering the official attendance of 44,832... just a fact of course...
look its up to you who you want to believe the Club who gave the attendences based on tickets they might of sold or me or anybody else who was actualy sitting in the stand and looking with my own eyes, I am telling you there was empty seats in all the stands I could see, not bothered if you agree or not...


yep I think I might go with the club on this one seeing as they are using a bit of a better system to count attendance than "using your eyes"
no probs, in all fairness if a person wants to judge from the comfort of there armchair instead of a match going red who could actualy see the ground wasn't full then it's up to you. You say you want to trust the club on this one, is this the same Club who said we could compete on an equal footing with the big Clubs, that there would always be top money available if the manager identified someone who could make us better regardless of cost and also the same owners who took the club over on the understanding they would build a new stadium, like I say, u keep on trusting the franchise, sorry I mean Club...

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Tickets sold equals money to the club. Don't worry about the facts that the official attendance was 44,832 and keep telling yourself that you're right. Are you saying that the owners are manipulating attendance figures? Even more delusional than I thought.

You'd wanna be careful with your armchair comments cool...

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Originally Posted By: coolflames
Originally Posted By: Maxi88
Originally Posted By: coolflames
Originally Posted By: Maxi88
I once again question your statement that attendances dropped for the Swansea game considering the official attendance of 44,832... just a fact of course...
look its up to you who you want to believe the Club who gave the attendences based on tickets they might of sold or me or anybody else who was actualy sitting in the stand and looking with my own eyes, I am telling you there was empty seats in all the stands I could see, not bothered if you agree or not...


yep I think I might go with the club on this one seeing as they are using a bit of a better system to count attendance than "using your eyes"
no probs, in all fairness if a person wants to judge from the comfort of there armchair instead of a match going red who could actualy see the ground wasn't full then it's up to you. You say you want to trust the club on this one, is this the same Club who said we could compete on an equal footing with the big Clubs, that there would always be top money available if the manager identified someone who could make us better regardless of cost and also the same owners who took the club over on the understanding they would build a new stadium, like I say, u keep on trusting the franchise, sorry I mean Club...


I think you may find the only empty seats were either side of you.

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Just put a different twist on prices if the cable or satellite companies made a decision that from now on watching games are not part of your subscription its now 50 pound or 50 euro every game and you can't afford it how would you feel ?

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