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Davo80 #311177 18/02/13 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: Davo80
TO be honest i'm not sure anyone is going to have any degree of success here at the moment as many things including the squad n money are hampering anyone of any note making a good go of things.

Yeah if we have gone back any and done worse than when a certain someone was sacked for doing badly before hand then I think you have to say that the managers position should be a precarious one.
That said FSG claimed this was a long term vision (even tho rumors out today they been looking for a buyer since Nov 2012) and have backed Rodger claiming not to expect much in this first season.

My personal feelings are that Rodgers is not cut our for the job. I like some of his style of football but for me he gets too much of the basics completely wrong. I have to be honest though i'm stumped on a replacement at the moment as we no longer have the pull we did.

I don't think 5-0 win against Swansea should now mean his job is safe however enjoyable it was to watch some goals go in for a change. We potentially exit the final possible cup this week and top 4 is just a pipe dream. Once all the other team catch up on games we are back in that position of one slip up and we drop to around 10th or 11th again, not good enough.


I think that BR is doing worse than expected. The squad that he inherited, plus the £55m-£60m that he spent so far would suggest that 5th place should be the target. Anything higher would be a miracle - and anything lower than 6th should be seen as a bit of a disappointment.

But we need to ask ourselves this: with the current players, could ANY manager get us into the top 4 or challenging for the title? I'm not a big BR fan but there's no point in sacking him unless the following falls into place:

1) we can attract a top proven manager
2) we have the funds to allow the new guy a chance to compete

FSG are mediocre owners, with mediocre funding. BR is a mediocre manager maintaining our position as a mediocre club. They suit each other at the moment unfortunately and I can't see much changing.

Carheex #311195 18/02/13 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: Davo80
TO be honest i'm not sure anyone is going to have any degree of success here at the moment as many things including the squad n money are hampering anyone of any note making a good go of things.

Yeah if we have gone back any and done worse than when a certain someone was sacked for doing badly before hand then I think you have to say that the managers position should be a precarious one.
That said FSG claimed this was a long term vision (even tho rumors out today they been looking for a buyer since Nov 2012) and have backed Rodger claiming not to expect much in this first season.

My personal feelings are that Rodgers is not cut our for the job. I like some of his style of football but for me he gets too much of the basics completely wrong. I have to be honest though i'm stumped on a replacement at the moment as we no longer have the pull we did.

I don't think 5-0 win against Swansea should now mean his job is safe however enjoyable it was to watch some goals go in for a change. We potentially exit the final possible cup this week and top 4 is just a pipe dream. Once all the other team catch up on games we are back in that position of one slip up and we drop to around 10th or 11th again, not good enough.


I think that BR is doing worse than expected. The squad that he inherited, plus the £55m-£60m that he spent so far would suggest that 5th place should be the target. Anything higher would be a miracle - and anything lower than 6th should be seen as a bit of a disappointment.

But we need to ask ourselves this: with the current players, could ANY manager get us into the top 4 or challenging for the title? I'm not a big BR fan but there's no point in sacking him unless the following falls into place:

1) we can attract a top proven manager
2) we have the funds to allow the new guy a chance to compete

FSG are mediocre owners, with mediocre funding. BR is a mediocre manager maintaining our position as a mediocre club. They suit each other at the moment unfortunately and I can't see much changing.


Agree with you. BR is not much better than KD if at all and if we cannot attract a proven better manager than BR, then no need to change.

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i think changing managers would be another set back for the club at this stage.

he's inherited a young and thin squad of players and it was always going to be a tough task for him.

he sometimes annoys me when praising the side after losing but i do think he is a very good young manager, one who can grow with the club. with a clean slate next season i think we can make a major improvement in all competitions.

sturridge looks to have given us something extra in the attacking 3rd and with him and the likes of suarez and gerrard in the side i honestly think we're a good match for anyone. just a shame he's arrived too late for us to challenge with the top clubs. coutinho could also be a good player for us.

some of the younger players like henderson are starting to show signs of progression. if shelvey, allen, sterling, wisdom, kelly etc can improve in the same manner we'll be better off next term.

i think a few additions to our defence and midfield could make us a lot stronger. we could do with another left back and with carra's retirement we'll need a quality defender who can be an aerial threat from set plays.

i think some of the criticism of the manager is a little harsh. i know we've dropped a lot of points this term but how many of those games did we actually deserve to lose? especially against the big sides. i think we'll have the quality to improve on those results next season.

the owners have to continue to back BR but also get the balance from youth and experience correct.

no disrespect to king kenny, but i'm a lot more excited about this squad than kenny's tbh



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