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Can you openly admit that a fan who spends £50 - £100 a week to see Liverpool play is a "better fan" than you? Because i certainly can. Thats the main point here for me, i love Ice Cube, favourite rap artist and i listen to him most of my day when i've the head phones in, doesn't mean i cant admit that the fans who travel to see him in concert all around the world are better fans than me. Just my opinion.
Faz, Stanley and even coolflames go to see us play week in week out so in my book they've more right to be called a fan than any of us even though i spend a solid fortune on LFC memorbilia. Just my opinion though You gotta be kidding. Obviously they ARE better fans than you because you put being a fan down to how much money you might spend on matchday. I put being a fan down to passion, and sticking it out through the hard times, not down to the amount of money someone might have to spend, or time they have for that matter. Some of us have families and little children...it makes no difference what the reason is for not attending a match. I GUARANTEE that 99% of members on here would gladly go to a game if they had the time and money. To me what makes a fan, A REAL FAN, is not the money, but the passion, the love for the club. A real fan will cheer and shout at the top of his voice even when he is alone in his bedroom, he will cry tears when the team lose a final. A real fan will feel every moment of pain and glory! Any rich Tom, Dick or Harry can get a season ticket. How many Chelsea season ticket holders are actually fans? How many go there just so they can say they are season ticket holders. Some of you need a reality check and have a lot of growing up to do, perhaps you have grown old, but you haven't grown up. BEING A FAN COMES FROM THE HEART, not from the wallet! So, Horgo, can you openly admit that you think being a fan comes from the amount of money you spend on matchday? Can you openly admit to us all that that is what you consider to be a true fan? If so, in my opinion, you are no fan at all!
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Nope i dont think being a fan has anything to do with money actually, sorry to interupt your little butthurt hissy fit, but what i meant was that some choose to have food on their table and clothes on their backs whilst other choose to travel be it wind, snow, rain or sleet to pay £50 and watch us put in average performances, if these are not the true fans and the TRUE BACKBONE of the club then i dont know what is. And no i'm not a fan i'm a Manc born and bread Fergie style.
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Can you openly admit that a fan who spends £50 - £100 a week to see Liverpool play is a "better fan" than you? Because i certainly can. Thats the main point here for me, i love Ice Cube, favourite rap artist and i listen to him most of my day when i've the head phones in, doesn't mean i cant admit that the fans who travel to see him in concert all around the world are better fans than me. Just my opinion.
Faz, Stanley and even coolflames go to see us play week in week out so in my book they've more right to be called a fan than any of us even though i spend a solid fortune on LFC memorbilia. Just my opinion though You gotta be kidding. Obviously they ARE better fans than you because you put being a fan down to how much money you might spend on matchday. I put being a fan down to passion, and sticking it out through the hard times, not down to the amount of money someone might have to spend, or time they have for that matter. Some of us have families and little children...it makes no difference what the reason is for not attending a match.
I GUARANTEE that 99% of members on here would gladly go to a game if they had the time and money. To me what makes a fan, A REAL FAN, is not the money, but the passion, the love for the club. A real fan will cheer and shout at the top of his voice even when he is alone in his bedroom, he will cry tears when the team lose a final. A real fan will feel every moment of pain and glory! Any rich Tom, Dick or Harry can get a season ticket. How many Chelsea season ticket holders are actually fans? How many go there just so they can say they are season ticket holders. Some of you need a reality check and have a lot of growing up to do, perhaps you have grown old, but you haven't grown up. BEING A FAN COMES FROM THE HEART, not from the wallet! So, Horgo, can you openly admit that you think being a fan comes from the amount of money you spend on matchday? Can you openly admit to us all that that is what you consider to be a true fan? If so, in my opinion, you are no fan at all! Those 2 lines basically prove what i'm saying, some fans go to games regardless of their background circumstances, they put the club first in front of time, money, family and food. And fair play to them for it...
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Marko I have watched Liverpool for 48 years do you think I would do that without caring for the club or any the fans who make big personal sacrifices to attend anfield don't care or have no passion
And your passion is no use at home in your armchair because the players can't hear you it's just like watching a movie no different
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Mighty LFC totally agree with your points especially the concentric circles argument without the core there is no club.
I agree all fans are important but any business looks after its high margin customers first. I don't think Liverpool FC do and take the people who turn up to anfield each game with contempt.
The overseas fans who attend the odd game will not pay the clubs bills nr will an empty stadium be a good product for worldwide viewing TV viewing Think about who provides the club with more money...45000 fans who pay 50 quid on match day which amounts to 2250000 pounds, from which they have to spend a certain amount for purposes of security, water etc on game day...or a million strong fan base each spending approximately 5 quid on matchday to watch the game on telly...at absolutely no cost to the club whatsoever.... Do the math....it's not the match going fans that are providing most of the income at the moment...it's the tv rights, the tv viewers....
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Can you openly admit that a fan who spends £50 - £100 a week to see Liverpool play is a "better fan" than you? Because i certainly can. Thats the main point here for me, i love Ice Cube, favourite rap artist and i listen to him most of my day when i've the head phones in, doesn't mean i cant admit that the fans who travel to see him in concert all around the world are better fans than me. Just my opinion.
Faz, Stanley and even coolflames go to see us play week in week out so in my book they've more right to be called a fan than any of us even though i spend a solid fortune on LFC memorbilia. Just my opinion though ! Nail.On.The.Head. Next topic for discussion?
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Marko I have watched Liverpool for 48 years do you think I would do that without caring for the club or any the fans who make big personal sacrifices to attend anfield don't care or have no passion
And your passion is no use at home in your armchair because the players can't hear you it's just like watching a movie no different stan i put my point forward yesterday miniminm 4 generations of watching LFC home ,away and europe good, bad and in different and some of these trips have been with personal sacrifice , now i am not saying people who buy products and buy TV subscriptions are not great reds they are , but in my case every home game since 1978 ok recently i stopped going away and i dont go the cup games only because of money but surely it must mean something .
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Can you openly admit that a fan who spends £50 - £100 a week to see Liverpool play is a "better fan" than you? Because i certainly can. Thats the main point here for me, i love Ice Cube, favourite rap artist and i listen to him most of my day when i've the head phones in, doesn't mean i cant admit that the fans who travel to see him in concert all around the world are better fans than me. Just my opinion.
Faz, Stanley and even coolflames go to see us play week in week out so in my book they've more right to be called a fan than any of us even though i spend a solid fortune on LFC memorbilia. Just my opinion though You gotta be kidding. Obviously they ARE better fans than you because you put being a fan down to how much money you might spend on matchday. I put being a fan down to passion, and sticking it out through the hard times, not down to the amount of money someone might have to spend, or time they have for that matter. Some of us have families and little children...it makes no difference what the reason is for not attending a match.
I GUARANTEE that 99% of members on here would gladly go to a game if they had the time and money. To me what makes a fan, A REAL FAN, is not the money, but the passion, the love for the club. A real fan will cheer and shout at the top of his voice even when he is alone in his bedroom, he will cry tears when the team lose a final. A real fan will feel every moment of pain and glory! Any rich Tom, Dick or Harry can get a season ticket. How many Chelsea season ticket holders are actually fans? How many go there just so they can say they are season ticket holders. Some of you need a reality check and have a lot of growing up to do, perhaps you have grown old, but you haven't grown up. BEING A FAN COMES FROM THE HEART, not from the wallet! So, Horgo, can you openly admit that you think being a fan comes from the amount of money you spend on matchday? Can you openly admit to us all that that is what you consider to be a true fan? If so, in my opinion, you are no fan at all! Those 2 lines basically prove what i'm saying, some fans go to games regardless of their background circumstances, they put the club first in front of time, money, family and food. And fair play to them for it... No my friend, those 2 lines of yours prove what a small man you are. Football is great, I love LFC, but there is nothing more important than family. One day when you grow up and become a man you will realise that. NOTHING, absolutely nothing, is more important than your family. Obviously, you have been raised differently, but trust me, one day when you are on your deathbed, you will remember your mom and your family..not Stevie G or Carragher or John Henry or whoever. The sooner you realise this, the better!
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You do the math do you realise that the fans watching on TV say 1 or 2 million watch, about 40 or 50 cent (pence) i reckon goes to the club for each, the TV deals have to sort out advertisers, sponsors etc. Also the club doesn't get paid for matches on TV they sign one deal to cover all TV games in August and then again on January 2nd so the only thing that TV fans influence is the deal the clubs get the next season, more fans watching = bigger TV deal.
The match going fans are the back bone of the club i seriously dont understand why thats even an argument on here to be honest.
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Marko without home fans there is no product to put on TV unless you fancy watching games in empty stadiums. Where did you get your numbers the TV are they real or made up?
Gate receipts are.a third of Liverpools income unlike sponsship they are more stable. Neglect the real fans you have no club.
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