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Marko you thank god there are so many idiots willing to pay £1000 to watch Liverpool of which I am one. I had to use my savings to pay this year as I am unemployed it's. choice I made not an easy one.
But you are right I am an idiot you are are the wise man watching on TV.
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was just gonna say, I didn't intend to say one set of fans are better than another. Just that ech set of fans play a different role. And the one's in the stadium, in particular those who sing, they play a role which is part of the product. All other fans are primarily just consumers.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
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Yes Marko, you and I are consumers. Thank you mighty thats the phrase i just couldn't think of, but as flames said i think this argument is a pathetic and the longer it goes the more pathetic it will get
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But all the sponsors TV rights only pay because of the product which would be impossible without the crowd at the game. I don't agree. The sponsors are paying for their image/logo to broadcast worldwide - the 35-40k home fans in the ground are not their target. As for the TV money, if Anfield had a ground capacity of 12 we'd still get the same premier league prize money and share from the TV deal. Accept it Mr Park - the fans are no longer important.
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But all the sponsors TV rights only pay because of the product which would be impossible without the crowd at the game. I don't agree. The sponsors are paying for their image/logo to broadcast worldwide - the 35-40k home fans in the ground are not their target. As for the TV money, if Anfield had a ground capacity of 12 we'd still get the same premier league prize money and share from the TV deal. Accept it Mr Park - the fans are no longer important. The adverts are at the ground because its a popular product to watch on TV without te crowd as it s with certain Italian grounds the product would be diminished and the sponsorship would go.
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was just gonna say, I didn't intend to say one set of fans are better than another. Just that ech set of fans play a different role. And the one's in the stadium, in particular those who sing, they play a role which is part of the product. All other fans are primarily just consumers. I can acceptand agree with that...
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We are all consumers but some consume more than others just like any business.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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But all the sponsors TV rights only pay because of the product which would be impossible without the crowd at the game. I don't agree. The sponsors are paying for their image/logo to broadcast worldwide - the 35-40k home fans in the ground are not their target. As for the TV money, if Anfield had a ground capacity of 12 we'd still get the same premier league prize money and share from the TV deal. Accept it Mr Park - the fans are no longer important. The adverts are at the ground because its a popular product to watch on TV without te crowd as it s with certain Italian grounds the product would be diminished and the sponsorship would go. but Italian league games are still broadcast worldwide. It's true the sponsorship deals are much lower and I am not arguing the importance of the match going fans, they are integral to the club. I am jut arguing that all fans are of equal importance. It's kind of a chicken and egg situation.
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But all the sponsors TV rights only pay because of the product which would be impossible without the crowd at the game. I don't agree. The sponsors are paying for their image/logo to broadcast worldwide - the 35-40k home fans in the ground are not their target. As for the TV money, if Anfield had a ground capacity of 12 we'd still get the same premier league prize money and share from the TV deal. Accept it Mr Park - the fans are no longer important. without te crowd as it s with certain Italian grounds the product would be diminished and the sponsorship would go. So....without TV there'd be no sponsors/investors? With no sponsors/investors the ticket prices would be 50 times what they are now! Still think that the 'armchair' fans aren't important? And what about this 'backbone' of fans that go to games - would they be willing to pay £2500 per ticket? You should be thanking us sofa-supporters for keeping down your costs! :-)
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Well seeing that I was watching George Carlin a week ago when I heard him say that, I was quoting Carlin. I am aware he was quoting Twain though, I did forget but thanks for the reminder.
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