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Originally Posted By: vish mauritius
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I think the reasons why people support Clubs Like United and Liverpool is one of the reason which some people can't get there heads around. To pick a Club just because its successful or famous for a lot of people is the wrong reason to support a Club as anyone can do that and if everyone done it then football would finish because nobody would support the smaller less famous Clubs. What makes a person who say lives in Brighton who has no ties whatsoever with Liverpool or Manchester turn there backs on there home Town or City and go and pick the Club of another place when they have a perfectly good club on there own doorstep which they can actively go out and support every other week, can a
Somebody explain this to me as I just can't get my head around supporting a club you can't go and watch yourself, this is an honest question and not a digg at anyone...


So what's your point Coolflames? Only Merseysiders should support LFC? I suppose you feel that it would be better for LFC if only Merseysiders were allowed to support LFC, right?
certainly not, all fans are welcome to support our great Club no matter where they live, all I have said that when you have such a wide global fanbase like we do there will always be differences between us and to think otherwise is nieve. I have never said somebody shouldn't support our club but I do question the reasons some people have decided to pick us, like I said all fans are welcome and they all play a part in making our club what it is today...

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Of course you are vish my only point is the regular match going fans are being forced out and I worry about the future of the club financially


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Of course you are vish my only point is the regular match going fans are being forced out and I worry about the future of the club financially


Not winning trophies and losing at home against teams like WBA and Villa is really worrying regarding the future of the club, not only because of regular fans being forced out, but also because there would be less shirt sales and poor regeneration of the ageing LFC fan population, therefore a big risk on future sponsorship contracts. I did said it at the beginning of the year that I couldn't understand FSG's business model in the long term unless of course FFP rules change the structure of modern football. My only worry is that I feel FSG are football stupid.

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I also don't understand their business model


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: vish mauritius
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I think the reasons why people support Clubs Like United and Liverpool is one of the reason which some people can't get there heads around. To pick a Club just because its successful or famous for a lot of people is the wrong reason to support a Club as anyone can do that and if everyone done it then football would finish because nobody would support the smaller less famous Clubs. What makes a person who say lives in Brighton who has no ties whatsoever with Liverpool or Manchester turn there backs on there home Town or City and go and pick the Club of another place when they have a perfectly good club on there own doorstep which they can actively go out and support every other week, can a
Somebody explain this to me as I just can't get my head around supporting a club you can't go and watch yourself, this is an honest question and not a digg at anyone...


So what's your point Coolflames? Only Merseysiders should support LFC? I suppose you feel that it would be better for LFC if only Merseysiders were allowed to support LFC, right?


Vish he is off his head Liverpool have always had supporters from around the north west of engand even in the 1930,s my grandad was one he lived 30 miles away from merseyside
stanley do ure homework mate and talk a bit of sense, Liverpool might of had fans from outside the area years ago but they certainly never turned up at Anfield like u suggest, there was hardly any of them, the average attendance was only about 34k when we were winning leagues. Just one question do you think the club values armchair fans support like match going fans, do u think the club sees us clients and customers as the same...

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I can see the point you are trying to make but I am afraid I disagree quite strongly. To view the club as concentric circles would be very very silly and would completely disregard the interactions of the clb and fanbase as a whole.

Rather try viewing it as an ecosystem where we are all interconnected and one cannot function without a service the other is providing. There are no core services, each is important to the same extent because without one the others cannot function.

Without soil we would have no plants, however without plants we would have no soil as we know it...hence remove either component and the ecosystem ceases to exist. Same applies to the club and fanbase.

Every fan is of equal importance to the club.


Here's are a few points to consider:

- LFC as a club can survive without the global fan base but it cannot survive if the stadium is empty.The atmosphere is part of the attraction to those who wtch on tv, whether they be in the UK or global.

- if we got relegted to the 4th division, the global fans will have long gone. But the local fans would still be there, albeit perhaps not in the same numbers, along with support from people in the city generally.

(btw, I'm not local to Liverpool and have only been to Anfield a handful of times)


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Originally Posted By: Marko2709

I can see the point you are trying to make but I am afraid I disagree quite strongly. To view the club as concentric circles would be very very silly and would completely disregard the interactions of the clb and fanbase as a whole.

Rather try viewing it as an ecosystem where we are all interconnected and one cannot function without a service the other is providing. There are no core services, each is important to the same extent because without one the others cannot function.

Without soil we would have no plants, however without plants we would have no soil as we know it...hence remove either component and the ecosystem ceases to exist. Same applies to the club and fanbase.

Every fan is of equal importance to the club.


Here's are a few points to consider:

- LFC as a club can survive without the global fan base but it cannot survive if the stadium is empty.The atmosphere is part of the attraction to those who wtch on tv, whether they be in the UK or global.

- if we got relegted to the 4th division, the global fans will have long gone. But the local fans would still be there, albeit perhaps not in the same numbers, along with support from people in the city generally.

(btw, I'm not local to Liverpool and have only been to Anfield a handful of times)



Totally agree. Without the global fan base, LFC would be similar to probably Forest in the worst case and Everton in the best case.

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Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
Originally Posted By: Marko2709

I can see the point you are trying to make but I am afraid I disagree quite strongly. To view the club as concentric circles would be very very silly and would completely disregard the interactions of the clb and fanbase as a whole.

Rather try viewing it as an ecosystem where we are all interconnected and one cannot function without a service the other is providing. There are no core services, each is important to the same extent because without one the others cannot function.

Without soil we would have no plants, however without plants we would have no soil as we know it...hence remove either component and the ecosystem ceases to exist. Same applies to the club and fanbase.

Every fan is of equal importance to the club.


Here's are a few points to consider:

- LFC as a club can survive without the global fan base but it cannot survive if the stadium is empty.The atmosphere is part of the attraction to those who wtch on tv, whether they be in the UK or global.

- if we got relegted to the 4th division, the global fans will have long gone. But the local fans would still be there, albeit perhaps not in the same numbers, along with support from people in the city generally.

(btw, I'm not local to Liverpool and have only been to Anfield a handful of times)



I don't know where you get the notion that LFC can survive without it's global fanbase, as it most certainly cannot. In todays game and world without the global fanbase LFC woul not have a stadium... The money involved in keeping a stadium and club running does not come from match going fans alone, a large portion does, but not enough to keep the club running at the level it's at today. Sure it could survive, as a conference team...but that's true in the case that there were no match going fans as well.


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